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2017.50.3.f3425a1 is out!
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ahkahn
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I just put over 700 miles on 50.3 today. Wow is all I can say. 99% of the drive was on AP, and it was solid as a rock. In my opinion, they've got it pretty well nailed down now.
Not yet, just got it last thing last night. I have presented my analysis and estimate. We shall see over time if I was right of course.
BTW first version may well be bad in dark. But my belief is they will get it working eventually - for the reasons outlined above... (But I've also explained why I believe it is/has not been exactly easy.)
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It was just a parody wording of your own inference.
I'm all for confirming the facts and reports. I am sure we will over time.
Thank you very much @BlueRocket and @S85D for putting that darn song in my head the whole fraking day.
Bruce.
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
Thank you very much @BlueRocket and @S85D for putting that darn song in my head the whole fraking day.
Bruce.
Here’s something to help see clearly tomorrow, just in case
.All this talk of I can see clearly now makes me think of The Boys and the first episode of The Grand Tour.
Here’s something to help see clearly tomorrow, just in case
And I knew what that was gonna be even before I clicked on it. It's like the TMC version of being rick-rolled.
Looks like there's no love for AP1 cars with this version, but oh well, no update for us means no opportunity to break anything either.
Bruce.
Your argument seems to be that, because AP needs to detect a malfunctioning camera, it must therefore be automagically capable of detecting rain as well.
Those are two different problems. The rain sensor not only needs to recognize rain, but it needs to estimate how often to run the wipers. It's job is to keep the windshield clear.
AP's job is to detect a malfunctioning camera. In response, it may try to run the wipers, but rain estimation is not the goal.
Division of labor would so well here. Use the right tool for the right job. A separation of concerns also enhances safety: if the front camera did go offline, forcing AP to disengage, or if AP crashed due to a hardware or software issue, you don't want the wipers to stop working in a storm. The driver already has their hands full regaining control of the car from AP; they shouldn't have to think about why they can longer see through the windshield.
lunitiks
Cool James & Black Teacher
PrGrPa
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That’s how it is on some Mercedes. Some have 2 positions of auto before the two fixed frequencies. The left hand stalk end on the 2014 A and B class twists to give 0, relaxed auto, responsive auto, I, II. Responsive auto seems fine in the U.K. for nearly all but the heaviest motorway conditions.
PrGrPa
Member
They are indeed using different sensors from the rest of the industry. They abandoned the existing rain sensor and decided to use the camera(s) and image processing to detect rain.
This change provoked a number of complaints from folks with this revised hardware as they received expensive cars without something many consider a basic function.
Looks like it might all be OK now that the software development has caught up with the hardware changes. And just in time for me to take delivery in the next few weeks of possibly one of the last batch of 2017 VIN model S RHD cars to come off the production line.
Setting switched to ON - check
Stalk set to either of two options - check
No sun in sky - check
Pissing down outside - check
Windshield wiped - negative
Hopefully it will rain today. Last time I said that was during a cricket match that England were about to [inevitably] lose.
PrGrPa
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That was my original thought: why abandon a ‘simple’, proven technology for software. I suppose in the end it is simplification of a sort. If you can emulate lots of individual systems using the Tesla’s ‘big brain’ computer, not only are you reducing your hardware, wiring, and interface burden, you are also making the control software ‘easily’ adjustable. I suppose it also potentially reduces the number of parts suppliers involved in the vehicle.
Not malfunctioning camera, obscured camera.
AP needs to be aware if there is rain, snow, ice, salt, dew, etc altering the image. A rain sensor does one thing well, detecting rain in front of the sensor. It cannot detect rain or anything else in front of the camera (unless the moisture distribution is uniform and of the type the sensor is triggered by). It cannot report a moth impact for instance.
So a rain sensor would allow auto-wipe of the type cars currently have, but would not further the development of the type AP needs.
Side idea: If Tesla added an IR LED (activated once every X frames) to the camera module offset from the windshield, that would allow checking of optical clarity via back scatering/ reflection at night.
ccdisce
EBISU like
I think that the TACC separation between me and the car ahead has to established for 'awhile' before it thinks of moving forward 'chill' mode may help.
In my case I have the separation set to 5 car lengths for TACC the 'awhile ' time is not adjustable as far as I know.
Not yet, just got it last thing last night. I have presented my analysis and estimate. We shall see over time if I was right of course.
BTW first version may well be bad in dark. But my belief is they will get it working eventually - for the reasons outlined above... (But I've also explained why I believe it is/has not been exactly easy.)
The first part of my commute this morning was along a dark country lane with no streetlights. The autowipers did not really activate on either setting however light from oncoming traffic triggered them straight away. I'd say this initial release does not work well in the dark, sure it will get better though and glad to finally have it.
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