50B market cap / 310 maybe? Lack on news / drivers, macro volatility, trader boredom before ER ?
Vs heavy short covering and momentum trading driving it to 330 before ER?
All wild guesses here.
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50B market cap / 310 maybe? Lack on news / drivers, macro volatility, trader boredom before ER ?
Vs heavy short covering and momentum trading driving it to 330 before ER?
All wild guesses here.
Well, I said I was going to sit put. But I found myself with spare cash in an IRA which can't do options trading until I fill out more forms. So I bought 18 shares. 
(Yes, this is totally insignificant compared to my overall holdings.)
(Yes, this is totally insignificant compared to my overall holdings.)It's ran so much that it's incredibly risky to buy at these levels.
Triangle forming at 303.... people want to see which way it goes from there and jump on the train after seeing the direction.
Triangle points up so maybe go for 305 next?
racer26
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Most here would disagree with you - risky in the short term, sure, but most of us believe that TSLA is a $400+ stock within 2 years.
Paracelsus
Active Member
And even riskier to hold on to a short position after this run IMHO. Given that risk of a very painful spanking without their shorts on anymore, I think those short positions will continue to close faster than long positions will sell in the near term. Combine that with continued buying pressure and we may just be getting started.
2 years? Are you nuts?? 2 months more like...
MODERATOR NOTE:
I wanted to share with all forum participants the Moderator's perspective:
When the market treats TSLA as it has over the past weeks, this job is really, really easy. With inconsequential exceptions, all of you have been behaving in exemplary fashion.
Funny, that.....
And here is something for all to consider. You may take this in the context of stock prices....or of anything else.
It comes from Sam Altman, the redoubtable head of the redoubtable Y Combinator.
The hard part of standing at any point on an exponential curve is that when you look backwards, everything is flat; looking forward, everything is vertical.
and Yes, I like my post so much I'm sharing it on both the "Roundtable" threads....
I wanted to share with all forum participants the Moderator's perspective:
When the market treats TSLA as it has over the past weeks, this job is really, really easy. With inconsequential exceptions, all of you have been behaving in exemplary fashion.
Funny, that.....
And here is something for all to consider. You may take this in the context of stock prices....or of anything else.
It comes from Sam Altman, the redoubtable head of the redoubtable Y Combinator.
The hard part of standing at any point on an exponential curve is that when you look backwards, everything is flat; looking forward, everything is vertical.
and Yes, I like my post so much I'm sharing it on both the "Roundtable" threads....
Mike Smith
Active Member
To get to a somewhat reasonable (although still quite high) short interest of 10M, about 20M shares need to be bought. This is probably more that the total current share float. I don't understand how this is going to work. Please, nobody else try to buy shares or you could cause a real problem.
racer26
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MartinAustin
Active Member
Isn't it Warren Buffet who said that the enemy of profits is diversification?
My two stocks passed major all-time-high milestones today - TSLA $300 and AMZN $900.
A good time for my portfolio
My two stocks passed major all-time-high milestones today - TSLA $300 and AMZN $900.
A good time for my portfolio
HG Wells
Martian Embassy
Well I chickened out. Was going to sell 20% of my Tsla but decided to sell only 2%.
Want to know how long it takes before I can reinvest. Last time I sold they wouldn't let me get back in for 4 days.
Want to know how long it takes before I can reinvest. Last time I sold they wouldn't let me get back in for 4 days.
True but why buy at a price that may take a while for the stock to reach again. Us long term investors have to manage risk, too.
MartinAustin
Active Member
Electrek either read my post and decided to publish it, or does not agree with you. They're reporting Tesla to be the largest market cap U.S. automaker, based off Google's figures. (Perhaps they mention Google just to indemnify themselves during their moment of big headline posting)
CNBC on the other hand aligns with you... they recently said (like 2 hours ago) GM was still higher. (Phil LeBeau just doubled down with a tweet seconds ago)
So perhaps the jury is still out?
everman
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Reciprocity
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I am starting to believe that Tesla's biggest issue is demand. And I dont mean the lack of demand, but way to much demand.
Humor me here for a second and please be aware this is pure speculation. Parsing through Elon's recent comments related to FSD and the assumption that AP2 is not v1.0 of FSD, but instead is a temporary solution put in place to compensate for the bad breakup with Mobileye, allowing them to keep their powder dry on FSD until later this year.
Elon stated that they wanted to keep Mobileye in place while they developed their solution in parallel until they could fully replace it, but Mobileye would not allow that. What I believe is that Tesla is much farther along with FSD then most really know and I believe this started way before the accident where the guy died when he hit the Semi truck while using autopilot. I believe that Tesla is holding back what they have because they cannot even build the 500,000+ cars for which they already have reservations. If they actually showed what they had, and I mean more then that 2 minute video in Oct, orders would go completely through the roof and I mean 2 million+ with no way for Tesla to fulfill the orders. This would end up with very upset customers who cannot ever hope to get the car for years. Also, it would drive up the secondary market for the car where people who do have reservations are reselling their cars immediately for huge gains. Similar to when a new game system comes out and a limit number are available and you see them on Ebay for 100% over retail.
My prediction is that Elon believes they can get to 4-5k per week by the end of this year. This will allow him to justify going back to the equity markets to build Gigafactory 3 and 4 and production for 3's in Asia and Europe, probably alongside or within those Gigafactories. I will put it to you this way, I expect Tesla to be back needing money 2 times a year from 2018 on for the next decade and not because they are in financial trouble, but because they can accelerate their plans once they prove it works and proof will come by year end. This is why I also think they will do a full reveal of FSD then as well as part of the case for building the new factories as quickly as possible. I think at the same time they will do a refresh on the interior of the S/X with the HUD that everyone has been dreaming of. Something similar to what Panasonic demonstrated recently or even a generation ahead that. One thing I have always hated about the touch screen is the touch part. I believe that you will not ever have to touch the screen and you will interact with UI without having to physically touch it as the HUD system has head/eye tracking. It will have eye tracking and other features to make easier to interact with what is being displayed, without taking your hands off the wheel.
I know some of it way out there, but I see how confident Elon is and I feel like there is a lot beneath the surface that goes beyond the recent success. Maybe I am just not as used to seeing Elon's hubris to recognize that sometimes, he just has more confidence then ability to deliver. That being stated, I believe he has delivered more then I dreamed possible so quickly so I am not saying he cannot deliver, just not to the level of his own confidence.
Thoughts?
Humor me here for a second and please be aware this is pure speculation. Parsing through Elon's recent comments related to FSD and the assumption that AP2 is not v1.0 of FSD, but instead is a temporary solution put in place to compensate for the bad breakup with Mobileye, allowing them to keep their powder dry on FSD until later this year.
Elon stated that they wanted to keep Mobileye in place while they developed their solution in parallel until they could fully replace it, but Mobileye would not allow that. What I believe is that Tesla is much farther along with FSD then most really know and I believe this started way before the accident where the guy died when he hit the Semi truck while using autopilot. I believe that Tesla is holding back what they have because they cannot even build the 500,000+ cars for which they already have reservations. If they actually showed what they had, and I mean more then that 2 minute video in Oct, orders would go completely through the roof and I mean 2 million+ with no way for Tesla to fulfill the orders. This would end up with very upset customers who cannot ever hope to get the car for years. Also, it would drive up the secondary market for the car where people who do have reservations are reselling their cars immediately for huge gains. Similar to when a new game system comes out and a limit number are available and you see them on Ebay for 100% over retail.
My prediction is that Elon believes they can get to 4-5k per week by the end of this year. This will allow him to justify going back to the equity markets to build Gigafactory 3 and 4 and production for 3's in Asia and Europe, probably alongside or within those Gigafactories. I will put it to you this way, I expect Tesla to be back needing money 2 times a year from 2018 on for the next decade and not because they are in financial trouble, but because they can accelerate their plans once they prove it works and proof will come by year end. This is why I also think they will do a full reveal of FSD then as well as part of the case for building the new factories as quickly as possible. I think at the same time they will do a refresh on the interior of the S/X with the HUD that everyone has been dreaming of. Something similar to what Panasonic demonstrated recently or even a generation ahead that. One thing I have always hated about the touch screen is the touch part. I believe that you will not ever have to touch the screen and you will interact with UI without having to physically touch it as the HUD system has head/eye tracking. It will have eye tracking and other features to make easier to interact with what is being displayed, without taking your hands off the wheel.
I know some of it way out there, but I see how confident Elon is and I feel like there is a lot beneath the surface that goes beyond the recent success. Maybe I am just not as used to seeing Elon's hubris to recognize that sometimes, he just has more confidence then ability to deliver. That being stated, I believe he has delivered more then I dreamed possible so quickly so I am not saying he cannot deliver, just not to the level of his own confidence.
Thoughts?
did my part today, a tiny pebble in the "melt up" avalanche . 7 shares at $298.0499 (tho once the avalanche starts, the pebble has no vote)
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