diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Enhanced Summon was never coming in 2019.28. Elon already said that Enhanced Summon is coming in V10. 2019.28 is not V10.
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2019.28.1
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Enhanced Summon was never coming in 2019.28. Elon already said that Enhanced Summon is coming in V10. 2019.28 is not V10.
ibGeek
Member
Please see my post above, I never said that the whole Neural Net would change. I said there would be updates to it. As in training data.
Those aren't currently handled by the NN... (at least from what i understand from autonomy day.)
Fernand
Active Member
I hope they fixed some of the bugs and dancing cars, and not just put effort into games...
I REALLY think people should stop talking about "dancing cars" in
the same sentence as bugs. They are objects that the system cannot
yet determine orientation on, being at a standstill or too far away, e.g.
whether the car is facing straight or at an angle. That is NOT a malfunction.
Msjulie
Active Member
If what you say is true then how does it know a truck vs a car vs ? orientation matters in order to decide some tall long thing probably is a truck, right?
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
If it can't determine the direction, make them a solid block object - unmoving, until it figures it out. That they dance around is a bug as far as I'm concerned.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
SomeJoe7777
Marginally-Known Member
I would agree that it's not a malfunction. The system is functioning as programmed.
However, I would indeed say that it is a bug. The designed behavior of the display does not specify that car images should jump around. Thus, if they are jumping around, then the display programming is not yet meeting design criteria. That's a bug.
You're jumping to conclusions. The design specs may say that the display should show the car images as the AP system currently views/understands them. If that is the case then the display is working as designed and it isn't a bug.
Now maybe you could say that then the AP system has a bug, but again the spec is probably to recognize objects/direction of travel. The spec probably doesn't say don't ever change your mind on what an object is or what direction it is travelling.
pdx_m3s
Active Member
Call it what you want, it's not right.
If the system cannot determine location in space and orientation without clear forward-visible lane lines, then it shouldn't attempt to render cars at all unless lane lines are appropriately visible.
If the system cannot determine location in space and orientation without clear forward-visible lane lines, then it shouldn't attempt to render cars at all unless lane lines are appropriately visible.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
The "dancing cars" is definitely a bug IMO since the cars are not supposed to jiggle like that. It would seem like an easy bug to fix though. You know the cars are in the adjacent lane so you know their direction of travel, so just automatically snap the cars to face the direction of travel.
I know the FSD demo seemed to show more details on the driver display but I do hope that when FSD is released that the driver display will show more detail. I love what Waymo shows. I wish we could get something more like this:
I know the FSD demo seemed to show more details on the driver display but I do hope that when FSD is released that the driver display will show more detail. I love what Waymo shows. I wish we could get something more like this:
BrandonLive
MS LR (refresh) Blue/Black/21s/FSD
You said that they update the AP NN(s) with every weekly version increase. I don’t think you could know that. I suspect they have a validation process that updated models go through, and that they choose to submit an updated one to their development repo when they have one ready which passes. They could also choose to do this in a revision in the release branch.
My point was it’s reasonably to say that any update might have AP / NN updates, and that new major versions are more likely to, but there’s probably no 1:1 relationship between models and weeks/versions as you suggested.
pdx_m3s
Active Member
The "dancing cars" is definitely a bug IMO since the cars are not supposed to jiggle like that. It would seem like an easy bug to fix though. You know the cars are in the adjacent lane so you know their direction of travel, so just automatically snap the cars to face the direction of travel.
I know the FSD demo seemed to show more details on the driver display but I do hope that when FSD is released that the driver display will show more detail. I love what Waymo shows. I wish we could get something more like this:
That’s a beautiful visualization!
Yep, and we know that in the past they have updated the NN in a dot release so not all releases with the same week number necessarily have the same NN build.
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
Interesting. Reddit and pictures are reporting that Dog Mode is fixed in this new update, too... But I don't see that listed in this thread.
Rahul Sood on Twitter
Sounds like we'll see this update pushed sooner rather than later, if only because Dog Mode bug could be a real killer.
Rahul Sood on Twitter
Sounds like we'll see this update pushed sooner rather than later, if only because Dog Mode bug could be a real killer.
BrandonLive
MS LR (refresh) Blue/Black/21s/FSD
C141medic
Active Member
I’m a little disappointed. No dancing cars (to the music) with my latest update (24.4). Have to admit it was a little entertaining.I hope they fixed some of the bugs and dancing cars, and not just put effort into games...
pdx_m3s
Active Member
Oh they’re there. Pull up as the first car at a stop light with no visible forward lane lines and cars start flying.
