2021 Shipping Movements

[rds1]

Found this thread from the other UK 2021 Orders thread. I received the VIN for my M3LR on 26-Oct, confirmation text on 28-Oct and collection confirmed for 04-Dec from Thorpe Park. The Tesla CS I spoke to said that my car is due to arrive at Thorpe park on Monday 29-Nov. Wondering which ship my car might be on?

 

[Magxs]

Hi, thank you for this thread. I hope you can help with futher insights into orders to Dubai. I ordered a Model 3 Performance in Dubai. Car is coming from China according to Tesla. Was told delivery should be in first half of November. Any idea how shipping from Shanghai to Jebel Ali works? What ships could it be on? Should be arriving soon. Don't have a VIN yet though.
Thanks

 

[DeanJohno]

Found this thread from the other UK 2021 Orders thread. I received the VIN for my M3LR on 26-Oct, confirmation text on 28-Oct and collection confirmed for 04-Dec from Thorpe Park. The Tesla CS I spoke to said that my car is due to arrive at Thorpe park on Monday 29-Nov. Wondering which ship my car might be on?

Hi....

Possibly HELIOS RAY or VIKING OCEAN or a long shot NABUCCO

 

[rds1]

Hi....

Possibly HELIOS RAY or VIKING OCEAN or a long shot NABUCCO

Thanks! Will keep an eye on these.

 

[rds1]

Massive thanks Mr M for all this information Really helps pass the one month wait until many of us collect our cars

 

[Spoonjab]

Continuing the depressing subject of RoRo safety by this time looking at the second biggest safety issue in my book - stability or rather how easy it is for these ships to become unstable.

Ship designers like watertight compartments and plenty of bulkheads. They have learnt over the years that these features add to a ships seaworthiness and should disaster strike, the ship is more likely to survive.
These features are necessarily absent in a RoRo which require large obstruction-free decks. RoRo's operate in some of the busiest shipping areas and so the risk of a collision is high. As long as the hull is not compromised and the ship remains watertight there should not be a problem however as soon as water ingresses the liklihood of the ship capsizing becomes increasingly likely and is generally inevitable.
There is also another reason why these ships are prone to capsize and that is through inadequate ballasting. The ships have a number of ballast tanks that use water to keep the vessel in trim. The ballast system can be quite complex to operate and it's the responsibility of the Chief Officer (First Mate) to ensure the ship is properly ballasted at all times. Nowadays on modern RoRo's the ballasting is largely computer controlled. During loading if the ship starts to list more than a degree or so, ballast pumps kick into life automatically to bring the ship upright again. Once loading is complete the ballast computer will tell the bridge whether the ship is trimmed to within limits or not. Stability is a very complex subject that has been made a lot easier with the introduction of computers but one wonders whether this dependency on computers has led to a lack of education on this difficult subject. In any marine academy I think the stability lessons are the hardest to get your head round with never-ending formulae, graphs and abbreviations. Just when you think you've mastered it, they introduce damage, icing, water density and anything else to make your brain hurt. I thought the plimsoll line alone would do the trick but alas I was sadly mistaken. Suffice to say, stability is very easy to get wrong and it can have catastrophic consequences.
The most modern RoRo's have sensors which send data via satellite link to specialist maritime engineering companies who can supply the bridge with a solution to be entered into the ballast computer prior to departure.

The following is my list is of car carriers that have either capsized or developed a dangerous list:

Dec 02 TRICOLOR

Jul 06 COUGAR ACE

Dec 12 BALTIC ACE

Jan 15 HOEGH OSAKA

Jan 16 MODERN EXPRESS

Sep 19 GOLDEN RAY

May 21 BYAKKO

Sep 21 IVAN

The UK Maritime Accident Investigation Branch report into the HOEGH OSAKA incident in the Solent in Jan 15 is probably the most comprehensive and interesting read.

The American NTSB report on the GOLDEN RAY has now been published.
I have to say I personally found this report quite a disappointing read as I think it left many important questions unanswered. It appears that I was not alone and if you are at all interested I recommend watching this YouTube video by Salvatore R. Mercogliano. The author goes on a bit but by the end he has hit the nail on the head as far as I am concerned and explains the real reason why the ship capsized.

Wow, nice cheery thoughts on a Friday evening

What's next on the Misery Series? How often these ships get hijacked?

 

[Mr Miserable]

Hi, thank you for this thread. I hope you can help with futher insights into orders to Dubai. I ordered a Model 3 Performance in Dubai. Car is coming from China according to Tesla. Was told delivery should be in first half of November. Any idea how shipping from Shanghai to Jebel Ali works? What ships could it be on? Should be arriving soon. Don't have a VIN yet though.
Thanks

It takes about 15 or 16 days by ship from Shanghai to Jebel Ali. We had one earlier this month, ASIAN TRUST which arrived there last Saturday.
In order to meet your delivery estimate I would say we need to look out for an imminent departure...

 

[Mr Miserable]

Wow, nice cheery thoughts on a Friday evening

What's next on the Misery Series? How often these ships get hijacked?

The high sides of car carriers makes them a very difficult target to assault. Additionally, the ship will transit high risk areas at high speed to make it even more difficult.
Accordingly, the biggest risk is now armed robbery when the ship is at anchor.
The good news is that piracy and armed robbery are at their lowest levels for 30 years according to the Piracy Reporting Centre with just 97 incidents reported so far this year. The Straits of Malacca used to be rife for piracy but increased anti-piracy patrols by the bordering nations seem to be working. Some believe it has just moved the problem elsewhere - with 20 armed robberies on anchored ships in the Singapore Straits so far this year. (15 in 2020 and 1 in 2019)
The current hot spot for piracy is the Gulf of Guinea and earlier this month the Royal Navy despatched HMS TRENT to patrol the area.

 

[Mr Miserable]

Just wanted to throw my hat into the ring for an M3LR in midnight silver with white interior and 19s order placed on Oct 21st.
I have been trying to use this thread to figure out how likely the estimated December delivery is. Some things make me confident, and then other don't.
At least this thread is keeping me occupied for now... Man it is hard to be patient. I guess I'll have to learn! (That and keep refreshing to see if the VIN has been updated).

I think you stand an excellent chance of getting delivery by the end of the year. Tesla seem to excel at quarter-end pushes and I see no reason why this quarter should be any different.

 

[Mr Miserable]

Ah, thanks. I am a bit down on my believes with Tesla and delivery dates...In the showroom I was told if I ordered right away I would have the car within a few weeks. Ordered the car the same day and next day received a delivery date of november 2021. Not finding a VIN makes me a bit anxious about that statement...

I don't think you will be waiting long.

 

[magnus952]

TALIA is now cruising up the English Channel. She will arrive into Southampton Eastern Docks at 06:30 tomorrow morning but will move across to the Western Docks tomorrow evening (18:30) where she will unload her Teslas. She is due to depart to Zeebrugge at midday on Sunday. I would expect her dock there around midnight on Sunday night.

LAKE FUXIAN She is still keeping her head down (see my post above). She is heading to Zeebrugge but may call at Southampton on the way. We should be able to confirm this once she clears Suez on Monday. I expect her AIS to be switched on again later today or early tomorrow morning.

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LAKE GENEVA is also on radio silence. She is heading initially to Koper (6 Nov) and then to Ashdod, Israel (11 Nov).

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HELIOS RAY is Southampton bound (and probably Zeebrugge afterwards). She is currently entering the Bay of Bengal and making 16 kts.

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VIKING OCEAN is also Southampton bound and should arrive there 24 hrs behind HELIOS RAY. She is 180NM behind HELIOS RAY doing 17.5kts. I haven't done a position chart for her since she is so close behind HELIOS RAY.

NABUCCO left Shanghai yesterday and is due to arrive in Southampton on 27 Nov and Zeebrugge on 29 Nov. She currently heading south through the busy East China Sea at 17.5kts. She is heading initially for Singapore where she will stop for a refuel.

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The weather forecast is fine for all the ships at the moment although it may be a little choppy for TALIA at present.

Drammen, Norway received a consignment of cars yesterday which I believe were transported by DON PASQUALE. This ship departed Shanghai in Q3.

Just two ships remaining on the watch list at the moment:

THEMIS due to arrive in Zeebrugge 15 Nov.
GLOVIS CHALLENGE presently in the South China Sea and due to arrive in Suez on 10 Nov. Destination unknown.

Loading in Shanghai at the moment is MORNING CLARA. She will almost certainly be loading Teslas bound for Australia.

UPDATE:
I failed to mention HOEGH KOBE.
She is not a 'Tesla ship' per se but is on a scheduled RoRo service and it is believed to be carrying some Teslas to Zeebrugge. She is roughly between HELIOS RAY and VIKING OCEAN at present and is heading to Port Sudan (not on Tesla business).
She's not due to arrive in Zeebrugge until 22 Nov.

Hey, Are You sure that hoegh kobe is not a tesla ship? I found my car on that ship searching on their site.

 

[MrT3]

Hey, Are You sure that hoegh kobe is not a tesla ship? I found my car on that ship searching on their site.

The ship does have some Tesla vehicles onboard. Not being a Tesla ship means it isn’t a dedicated charter only carrying Teslas.

 

[skateboarder]

Mr Miserable spot on with his info on Talia . Talia has managed to avoid fires, freak waves, drone attacks and Captain Philips scenario and now in Southampton after 28 day voyage from Shanghai Any way we can track the Tesla car transporter ?

 

[tmleafs17]

Mr Miserable spot on with his info on Talia . Talia has managed to avoid fires, freak waves, drone attacks and Captain Philips scenario and now in Southampton after 28 day voyage from Shanghai Any way we can track the Tesla car transporter ?

You'll get a tracking text on the day showing how close it is....just eat style I was told by tesla

 

[London1990]

Hi All, M3 LR ordered 17th September. Got my delivery text on 28th October for a home delivery on 29th November. What boat will it be on ?

 

[j247on]

Hi All, M3 LR ordered 17th September. Got my delivery text on 28th October for a home delivery on 29th November. What boat will it be on ?

My M3LR is is available for collection on the 30th November and is on the Helios Ray

 

[Washout]

Hi All, M3 LR ordered 17th September. Got my delivery text on 28th October for a home delivery on 29th November. What boat will it be on ?

My money would be on HELIOS RAY also, which is where I think mine is as well.

 

[Washout]

The high sides of car carriers makes them a very difficult target to assault. Additionally, the ship will transit high risk areas at high speed to make it even more difficult.
Accordingly, the biggest risk is now armed robbery when the ship is at anchor.
The good news is that piracy and armed robbery are at their lowest levels for 30 years according to the Piracy Reporting Centre with just 97 incidents reported so far this year. The Straits of Malacca used to be rife for piracy but increased anti-piracy patrols by the bordering nations seem to be working. Some believe it has just moved the problem elsewhere - with 20 armed robberies on anchored ships in the Singapore Straits so far this year. (15 in 2020 and 1 in 2019)
The current hot spot for piracy is the Gulf of Guinea and earlier this month the Royal Navy despatched HMS TRENT to patrol the area.

All I can see after reading this post is:

 

[RateMyFuneral]

I think you stand an excellent chance of getting delivery by the end of the year. Tesla seem to excel at quarter-end pushes and I see no reason why this quarter should be any different.

Good to hear! And thank you for your extremely informative and interesting posts. The effort you contribute here is nothing short of astounding!

 

[Mr Miserable]

TALIA has arrived in Southampton however her Teslas will remain onboard until she moves across to the Western Docks this evening (around 19:00) where they will be unloading throughout the night. She will now depart to Zeebrugge tomorrow morning at 09:00 and therefore should be alongside in Zeebrugge tomorrow night.

LAKE FUXIAN has surprisingly yet to switch her AIS back on as I reckon she should be well up the Red Sea by now. (The concern in the Red Sea is a ship called SAVIZ that is being used by Iranian Revolutionary Guards) She is due to arrive in Suez tomorrow night and I expect will transit the canal on Monday. She is certainly bound for Zeebrugge with the only question remaining being whether she will stop at Southampton first. We will hopefully find that out on Monday.

LAKE GENEVA has her AIS switched off too as she transits an area regarded as high risk. She is bound for Koper (6 Nov) and Ashdod, Israel (11 Nov)

We then have a procession of 3 ships which are very close to each other. VIKING OCEAN is just 25 miles behind HOEGH KOBE which is 160NM behind HELIOS RAY.

HELIOS RAY is heading to Southampton initially. I estimate she will arrive there around 17 Nov.
HOEGH KOBE is not chartered by Tesla but is carrying some to Zeebrugge. She will arrive there on 22 Nov but she will be making a number of stops on the way.
VIKING OCEAN is heading to Southampton and I estimate she should arrive around 18 Nov.

NABUCCO is heading to Southampton (26 Nov) and Zeebrugge (28 Nov). I'm reasonably confident now that the 'other' itinerary that was doing the rounds which included a stop in Bristol will now be performed by BOHEME which is due to depart from Shanghai next weekend. (Therefore BOHEME will not be a Tesla ship) NABUCCO has successfully navigated the Straits of Taiwan and is now entering a choppy South China Sea. She will make a stop for fuel off Singapore on Wednesday before continuing on to Suez. To be clear, we don't actually know yet that NABUCCO is a Tesla ship but at the moment she's a pretty good bet in my opinion.

Over in Shanghai MORNING CLARA departed as expected to Australia almost certainly loaded with lots of Teslas. Her place was taken by HYPERION RAY a ship that has been chartered by Tesla several times and so is certainly on my watch list.
HOEGH TRACER is preparing to depart to Singapore. She is on a scheduled service and will follow more-or-less the same itinerary as HOEGH KOBE eventually arriving in Zeebrugge on 4 Dec. She therefore could be carrying some Teslas.