2022 Shipping Movements

[Mr Miserable]

It could be worse than just a circling ship outside of port…

Cargo Ship Full of Porsches, Bentleys and VWs Is On Fire and Adrift in the Atlantic [UPDATED]

The Felicity Ace’s crew has been rescued, but the fate of the vehicles on board is unknown.

www.thedrive.com

Thanks for posting that.
Vehicle carriers do not have a good safety record.
The accidents and incidents can be largely grouped into 2 different cause groups - Fire and Instability.

Let’s look at fires first of all. That is now 7 major fires since January 2019 that I am aware of:

January 2019 SINCERITY ACE caught fire whilst crossing the Pacific with 3500 Nissans on board. 5 Crewman died

March 2019 GRANDE AMERICA caught fire and sank in the Bay of Biscay

May 2019 GRANDE EUROPA caught fire whilst off the Spanish coast in the Mediterranean. It had no less than 2 separate fires in brand new vehicles within the space of 4 hours.

May 2019 PLATINUM RAY Fire. Korea

June 2019 DIAMOND HIGHWAY was abandoned in the South China Sea because of a fire onboard.

June 2020 HOEGH XIAMEN caught fire whilst loading at Jacksonville Florida. Despite the fire service being on scene very quickly and using drones with IR cameras to detect hot spots, the ship continued to burn for days and was a total loss. This fire was very concerning since if a fire cannot be extinguished when alongside with the benefit of a fully equipped fire service using fire boats and all the latest technology, what chance would it have at sea?

The causation of most of these fires is put down to car batteries, that’s normal ICE 12V car batteries on brand new cars. No, I don’t suppose you read about these horrific incidents in the Daily Mail since they didn’t involve a Tesla.

The other major issue with these ships is their stability or rather potential instability.
Generally there are 2 reasons for stability issues the first of which is water ingress and the second is failing to ballast or trim the vessel properly. The latter can often lead to the former.

Typing the following incidents into a search engine will produce an eye-opening read.

Dec 02 TRICOLOR Enroute from Zeebrugge to Southampton sank following collision. Notoriously hit twice more by 2 different vessels.

Jul 06 COUGAR ACE Developed a severe list

Dec 12 BALTIC ACE 11 died following a collision

Jan 15 HOEGH OSAKA Developed a severe list. MAIB report here.

Jan 16 MODERN EXPRESS Severe list

Dec 16 GLOVIS CORONA List North Sea

Sep 19 GOLDEN RAY Capsized


The American NTSB report on the GOLDEN RAY is yet to be published, however there were some US Coastguard hearings in September from which you can get a very good idea of what went on.

 

[Mr Miserable]

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Or this?!? Plus whilst taking this bump into one of my favourite comedians, Mark Watson.

Nope. Not a Tesla vessel either. Only 647 other car carriers to go!

 

[Ivie_tes]

Thanks for posting that.
Vehicle carriers do not have a good safety record.
The accidents and incidents can be largely grouped into 2 different cause groups - Fire and Instability.

Let’s look at fires first of all. That is now 6 major fires since January 2019 that I am aware of:

January 2019 SINCERITY ACE caught fire whilst crossing the Pacific with 3500 Nissans on board. 5 Crewman died

March 2019 GRANDE AMERICA caught fire and sank in the Bay of Biscay

May 2019 GRANDE EUROPA caught fire whilst off the Spanish coast in the Mediterranean. It had no less than 2 separate fires in brand new vehicles within the space of 4 hours.

June 2019 DIAMOND HIGHWAY was abandoned in the South China Sea because of a fire onboard.

June 2020 HOEGH XIAMEN caught fire whilst loading at Jacksonville Florida. Despite the fire service being on scene very quickly and using drones with IR cameras to detect hot spots, the ship continued to burn for days and was a total loss. This fire was very concerning since if a fire cannot be extinguished when alongside with the benefit of a fully equipped fire service using fire boats and all the latest technology, what chance would it have at sea?

The causation of most of these fires is put down to car batteries, that’s normal ICE 12V car batteries on brand new cars. No, I don’t suppose you read about these horrific incidents in the Daily Mail since they didn’t involve a Tesla.

The other major issue with these ships is their stability or rather potential instability.
Generally there are 2 reasons for stability issues the first of which is water ingress and the second is failing to ballast or trim the vessel properly. The latter can often lead to the former.

Typing the following incidents into a search engine will produce an eye-opening read.

Dec 02 TRICOLOR Enroute from Zeebrugge to Southampton sank following collision. Notoriously hit twice more by 2 different vessels.

Jul 06 COUGAR ACE Developed a severe list

Dec 12 BALTIC ACE 11 died following a collision

Jan 15 HOEGH OSAKA Developed a severe list. MAIB report here.

Jan 16 MODERN EXPRESS Severe list

Sep 19 GOLDEN RAY Capsized


The American NTSB report on the GOLDEN RAY is yet to be published, however there were some US Coastguard hearings in September from which you can get a very good idea of what went on.

For the sake of providing the whole picture here, fire on board is devastating for every ship. Crewmembers are always the first and foremost only firedepartment they have at sea. Other assistance from the shore if possible is always in assistance of the crew as they know their ship.
Fires get much hotter compared to “normal” fires on land. Few hundred degrees hotter. This due to the fact that it’s always in confined spaces and in metal.
This is also why crewmembers always get extensive firefighting training and they rehearse this several times per week.

I don’t know about the amount of fires on roro ships compared to other ships.

 

[Mr Miserable]

For Dutch readers: This is why these carriers prefer not to enter the harbour with those strong winds:

LIVE | Storm Dudley blaast autoschip uit koers: vaartuig stopt vlak voor weg bij IJmuiden

Storm Dudley trekt sinds woensdag ons land over. Het KNMI gaf donderdag in de noordelijke provincies code geel af vanwege zware windstoten die lokaal kunnen oplopen tot wel 100 kilometer per uur.…

www.telegraaf.nl

That looks very much like she only had 1 tug in attendance at the time - the 2nd tug can be seen racing to the scene of the incident.

 

[DennisPieters]

looks like viking bravery has entered the harbor


Model 3 Long Range / Midnight Silver / 18" aero wheels / Black premium interior
Ordered 8/12/2021 - EDD 1-13/03/2022
VIN in sourcecode - car confirmed to be on MSC Immacolata

 

[Johnlloyd]

Just got a EDD of 22-31 March.
I’m thinking either MORNING CARINA or GRAND DOLPHIN (if she’s heading to Southampton)will be carrying my car.
Will be watching these 2 now

 

[Pau1]

Looks like London locations are getting the update... "Delivery date 15-29" a number of people now have this. No idea what ship this could be.

 

[Marc O.]

In March 2021 she was also in Zeebrugge: Google Maps

 

[David_ffg]

Just got a EDD of 22-31 March.
I’m thinking either MORNING CARINA or GRAND DOLPHIN (if she’s heading to Southampton)will be carrying my car.
Will be watching these 2 now

What delivery location John? And spec?

 

[Mr Miserable]

For the sake of providing the whole picture here, fire on board is devastating for every ship. Crewmembers are always the first and foremost only firedepartment they have at sea. Other assistance from the shore if possible is always in assistance of the crew as they know their ship.
Fires get much hotter compared to “normal” fires on land. Few hundred degrees hotter. This due to the fact that it’s always in confined spaces and in metal.
This is also why crewmembers always get extensive firefighting training and they rehearse this several times per week.

I don’t know about the amount of fires on roro ships compared to other ships.

Even firefighting training can be dangerous.
Last September three seamen died on a RoRo when they were in a compartment which was unintentionally flooded with CO2 during fire training.

 

[Mr Miserable]

In March 2021 she was also in Zeebrugge: Google Maps

She was delivering Model 3s from Newark in an end-of-quarter push.
Cars were transported to Newark from San Francisco by rail and shipped from there to save some time (not money)
VIKING BRAVERY arrived in Zeebrugge on 19 Mar 21

 

[Johnlloyd]

What delivery location John? And spec?

RWD Black-black-18”
Collection from Trafford centre and I ordered on 7-01-22

 

[Eason]

Looks like London locations are getting the update... "Delivery date 15-29" a number of people now have this. No idea what ship this could be.

yea I'm in london, I got these date

 

[David_ffg]

I think we’re on the same ship! Whatever it is… I have 21-31 March at Bristol (updated this afternoon)

 

[Stuart1979]

Looks like London locations are getting the update... "Delivery date 15-29" a number of people now have this. No idea what ship this could be.

Yesterday I accepted 9th March for Bluewater.

 

[JimmyDean]

Haha we are having the same experience. When I received the first text last evening, I checked the link via my phone and there were no options. Then, I received the second text telling me the same thing. After that I used the link on my computer and there I saw ACTUALLY options Option 1: March 12 anytime. Option 2: March 14 anytime. I chose my initially allocated time so no changes there

i phoned them this morning as my schedule changed online to the windon 2nd to 16th march again, where it started the day, they just told me it shouldn't have been scheduled. they wouldn't or couldn't tell me what ship it is on.

 

[Ivie_tes]

Even firefighting training can be dangerous.
Last September three seamen died on a RoRo when they were in a compartment which was unintentionally flooded with CO2 during fire training.

I know. I lived at sea a few years.

 

[Worldwide Webb]

Finally got my EDD... March 15 - March 29. Ordered 31/12/21...no VIN yet either. M3 SR+, 18" wheels, blue, black interior. Can't wait to start ship tracking now!

Maybe you and me both. I got EDD today March 21-31. Ordered same day as you. UK. M3 SR+ 18" wheels, grey/black.

 

[Pablow75]

VIKING BRAVERY and GLOVIS CONDOR have not entered Zeebrugge as expected and continue to loiter well clear of Zeebrugge.
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SFL COMPOSER is not hanging around and is making nearly 19kts enroute to Southampton. ETA 22 Feb
HELIOS RAY is still unloading in Ashdod but is now due to arrive in Koper on Sunday. Some MY have been spotted onboard destined for Koper.

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MSC IMMACOLATA and GRAND PIONEER are now safely in the Red Sea
I've revised my ETA for the former to arrive in Southampton around 01 Mar.
We still haven't seen any indications that GRAND PIONEER is heading to Koper and so she may be heading to Zeebrugge. Yesterday I mentioned that she should overtake MSC IMMACOLATA however today I can't see that happening and if anything the gap between them has widened. Typical.

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As reported earlier RCC AMSTERDAM is in plaid mode. She is averaging over 19kts and has knocked 24hrs off her ETA for Suez.
I now estimate she should arrive in Southampton on 06 Mar but it could be even earlier.....
Enter the RCC AMSTERDAM competition

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GLOVIS CHORUS has just finished refuelling in Singapore and should depart imminently.
MORNING CARINA She is definitely heading for Southampton 14 Mar and Zeebrugge 16 Mar.
GRAND DOLPHIN departed Shanghai South this morning for Singapore. I wonder if this is will be a Koper-bound ship.

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and over in the Far East I am watching these four ships:

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Earlier today I had a good old trawl through the Shanghai anchorages looking for the next possible ship from Shanghai South and came away empty handed. I think we have seen the last of the departures to Southampton and Zeebrugge for this quarter although departures to Koper are still possible.

I’ve been advised that my Belfast bound Tesla M3 RWD is on Grand Pioneer. Was shown it on screen today by Tesla Advisor.

 

[iorgosg]

I am guessing that some of us might have questions, other than shipping movements.
So in order to try and help, I would suggest to check out non-shipping related chat such as:

UK 2022 Orders to Delivery inc the shipping thread for posts with no shipping news

Just checked my status and its dropped in a May 8th to June 5th delivery date …. So basically could be June! 🤪🥲🤔

teslamotorsclub.com

This way we can keep this chat more ship tracking.
Hope I helped!