I would guess you'd need the PWS, and as you (and I) don't have that on a 2020 car, then I think not...
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I'd be happy if they removed the option to enable Autosteer on non-motorways or dual carriageways as it's not fit for use on these roads IMHO. TACC is fine though.
I quite like engaging it when I’m in traffic, so I’d not be voting for this despite agreeing that it’s not fit for use on these roads.
I can see why that is useful, but I find it (and TACC) extra annoying in traffic as the acceleration when the vehicle ahead pulls away is far too aggressive.
phoenixcat
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Speed cameras is a useless feature unless it alerts you audibly when you are near one, otherwise you have to keep looking at the screen.
Foxsbiscuits
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I have assumed it would give an audible alert like Google maps, otherwise yes, useless!
Google also shows temporary and mobile cameras which, if Tesla is just using their data, would be useful to have too.
Foxsbiscuits
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I think they should limit autosteer to roads like dual carriageway and motorways, I've had too many issues with it on UK residential roads that I stopped using it for fear of either phantom braking because of a parked car or this clunky stop start in traffic, I'm smoother with my foot.
ACarneiro
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I trust it so little these days that I wouldn't dream to try using it in a residential area....
sleepydoc
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Right - I was trying to have a rational discussion but it's clearly no use.
Edit: I googled 'temperatures in northern England' and found that the average low temperature in January is 0º C. Cold? hardly.
sleepydoc
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They're doing that here in the states. Apparently the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) issued a recall to force Tesla to restrict AP use based on geography because too many people were being stupid with it and causing accidents.
The manual clearly states "Autosteer is intended for use on controlled-access highways with a fully attentive driver. Do not use Autosteer in construction zones, or in areas where bicyclists or pedestrians may be present." Unfortunately, people can't read and you can't fix stupid. :/
sleepydoc
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Interesting. Many people over here have the reverse complaint, that it's not aggressive enough and allow others to cut in. I don't spend much time in heavy traffic and haven't played around with the controls but I think it does depend somewhat on settings. There's also a wide variation in driving styles between regions and countries so I'm sure that plays a roll as well.
Foxsbiscuits
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Interesting, I don't know if I read that before using it... I don't know what controlled access highway means, if it said "Intended for motorway use" I'd understand and completely agree, I'd also lower my expectations. That's been a big thing for me with the autopilot, I started expecting an AI taxi but now accept it can stay in a motorway lane at speed pretty well.
It's a shame they have to cater for misuse, I agree. I remember an IT guy saying don't believe something is idiot proof, they'll just find a better idiot.
I'm talking about pulling away from a standstill in traffic - that's where it is too aggressive. In slow-moving-never-quite-stopped traffic it's fine - but yes, the rate at which it then goes from ~20mph back to the set cruising speed is sometimes quite slow.
it changed when Muskovite removed radar from TACC. It used to be able to have minimal distance set to 1 not 2..( wtf, since when lowest number is 2?)
as well as AP max speed was like 95 mph, instead of 95.
so you could keep shorter distance between other vehicles in traffic
because of fockin Tesla vision. With radar it was wayyy smoother.
it like tesla vision tries to measure the distance between you and another vehicle in front, and instead of gradual measurement of "1,"go steady" 2,"go steady" 3 "go steadier", 4 meters - accelerate, it goes like "0,0,0,oooooh it's 4 - go go go"
Transformer
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Don't you have the spaceship sound when backing up? My Model 3 built in Dec 2019 does. I think the 2020s were all built in Fremont.
I'd use a custom lock sound to make it easier to tell when the car locks in a big parking garage.
Ideas for a sound that's district but not annoying? A bird call?
JupiterMan
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