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2023 Holiday Update
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Pagemakers
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While my auto wipers have been significantly better on my last two drives, until this remains for the forceable future I’m inclined to agree with @Durzel
I’ve probably had the right rain at the right time of the day. I find it almost impossible to believe that after almost 8 years of crap wipers they’ve suddenly nailed it.
I’ve probably had the right rain at the right time of the day. I find it almost impossible to believe that after almost 8 years of crap wipers they’ve suddenly nailed it.
Drew57
Active ember
My wipers are always unresponsive with spray or with raindrops on the windscreen after the rain has stopped. They require a manual wipe to clear even if ignored for several minutes.
Currently 2023.44.30.5 & still the same today. In nearly four years of ownership & two Teslas this has not changed so it may be safe to assume that it is beyond the abilities of Tesla's cameras.
Currently 2023.44.30.5 & still the same today. In nearly four years of ownership & two Teslas this has not changed so it may be safe to assume that it is beyond the abilities of Tesla's cameras.
Exactly this. It does amuse me that after nearly every update someone will claim the wipers have improved. It never happens.
I’ll just have to accept that my supposedly incredibly technically advanced car has, in some respects, worse tech than a cheap 20 year old hatch.
Also people give Tesla so much latitude for what is by now a basic convenience feature that exists on pretty much everything.
“It’s coming in the FSD stack, which we haven’t got yet”
“Just wait for Dojo/V12, it’ll solve this”
etc.. etc.. just excuses after excuses.
Pink Duck
Active Member
The core of the problem is that like in sports coverage rain disappears from view depending on focal length of camera. Whereas driver’s point of view includes ability to observe near-distance windscreen appearance where there is no camera.
Exactly my experience over the last few days - the last update has made them less sensitive which I find dangerous. I never used to have much of an issue with dry wiping, but would prefer that than having to manually activate the wipers every 10 seconds or so.
M1tch
2021 M3P with EAP
Crazy how so many find the car better, some worse and some indifferent. Personally I think the current update has made the car as good as it’s been. I pretty much only do long range trips in mine and think it’s great.
MrBadger
Badger out
The common (almost guaranteed) achilles heel is unresponsive wiping of spray from roads in daylight, light rain in darkness and reluctance to adjust after a heavy downpour. Many others seem to report these same circumstances.
There are a few other issues that we have but very much due to the particular circumstances rather than anything you could consistently pinpoint although bright sun after heavy rain through dappled shade seems to be a recurring but not guaranteed trigger.
I’ll only believe something has changed when the former scenarios are reported fixed by numerous posts, especially spray from the road as that’s almost guaranteed on a motorway when overtaking lorries kicking up spray in daylight.
There are a few other issues that we have but very much due to the particular circumstances rather than anything you could consistently pinpoint although bright sun after heavy rain through dappled shade seems to be a recurring but not guaranteed trigger.
I’ll only believe something has changed when the former scenarios are reported fixed by numerous posts, especially spray from the road as that’s almost guaranteed on a motorway when overtaking lorries kicking up spray in daylight.
goRt
Active Member
There are 2 versions being tested - .6 (being replaced by .7) and the more prevalent .5, people stating "I'm on the latest version" don't help
Foxsbiscuits
Member
Why didn't they just put an IR sensor in 
I'm assuming cameras did well in lab tests and now it has real world release they've found the actual limits and we'll never see an improvement because of tech limitation.
That's my opinion, I think the camera sensor isn't powerful enough and never will be, otherwise it would have been solved by now.
But once you're this committed to the tech you can't say "Sorry guys, they're 90% auto wipers on your self driving car"
I'm assuming cameras did well in lab tests and now it has real world release they've found the actual limits and we'll never see an improvement because of tech limitation.
That's my opinion, I think the camera sensor isn't powerful enough and never will be, otherwise it would have been solved by now.
But once you're this committed to the tech you can't say "Sorry guys, they're 90% auto wipers on your self driving car"
goRt
Active Member
What, and spend 10 bucks a car on proven tech when this will be fully operational in 2 weeksWhy didn't they just put an IR sensor in
I'm assuming cameras did well in lab tests and now it has real world release they've found the actual limits and we'll never see an improvement because of tech limitation.
That's my opinion, I think the camera sensor isn't powerful enough and never will be, otherwise it would have been solved by now.
But once you're this committed to the tech you can't say "Sorry guys, they're 90% auto wipers on your self driving car"
For the same reason they took away ultrasonics 6 months before there was ANY replacement system, and a full year before a camera based system that approaches usability (but is still fundamentally flawed). Hubris, and it helped their margins.Why didn't they just put an IR sensor in
I'm assuming cameras did well in lab tests and now it has real world release they've found the actual limits and we'll never see an improvement because of tech limitation.
That's my opinion, I think the camera sensor isn't powerful enough and never will be, otherwise it would have been solved by now.
But once you're this committed to the tech you can't say "Sorry guys, they're 90% auto wipers on your self driving car"
That being said I can’t blame Tesla too much because if people are going to carry on buying the cars regardless and excuse degraded or missing features then it simply validates the decision. It is pretty sad though, building down to cost.
Doudeau
Member
I saw a message for the first time today. Maybe new in recent update?
Not particularly interesting or insightful but it appeared each time I was a long way into a tunnel and thankfully disappeared once I came out into the open.
Not particularly interesting or insightful but it appeared each time I was a long way into a tunnel and thankfully disappeared once I came out into the open.
Pagemakers
Active Member
Doudeau
Member
Ironically telling you to pay more attention.
MrBadger
Badger out
I think I have seen similar in Hatfield tunnel but not in the longer Heindhead tunnel.
Pagemakers
Active Member
Absolutely, and when you look at the screen to see what the message says, the internal camera spots you and gives you six of the best
I go through the Queensway/Birkenhead-Liverpool Mersey Tunnel fairly often and that message has appeared the last few times. The paradox is that there's only one way out going west and two going east, so it's pretty difficult to get lost!
WannabeOwner
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