This. Now if they make a real M EV, that might be enough to make me go back to BMW.
Whatever this turns into seems promising. Though probably will be out of my price range for now
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Whatever this turns into seems promising. Though probably will be out of my price range for now
That is a pretty massive jump from where it is now. That would be a whole lot more than $2k-$4k.
Blacktes24
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they lowered the long rand AWD from 4.1 to 3.6 0-60 for 2k unlock. I'd even be happy to get to 2.6 or 2.7 and high 10s in the 1/4. I've seen a lot of them run 11.3-11.4 stock. I'd think it's doable.
ElectricIAC
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Weight reduction and some nice light forged wheels on sticky rubber will get you closer to that…
You are correct. The 450 hp rating was even prior to the 5% hp software update we got in the end of 2019. Now they've switched to the hairpin motors, which supposedly cause a little less interference, increasing the power a bit more. Would assume those two things are what make up the amount in between these two numbers.
As you get quicker and quicker it gets much harder to achieve the same gains. The Boost upgrade on the Dual Motor cars was just unlocking what was being crippled by software.
There isn’t a lot more that can be had from a Model 3 Performance over the quickest times that have been posted already. The car is pushing the battery and motors pretty hard already.
Lindenwood
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The model 3 performance motors and inverters already can pull more combined current than the battery can give. We would need a significant battery upgrade to get much more.
I'll preface this by saying I don't know electric systems very well.... but if the battery were a limitation, would it potentially increase performance if there were large capacitors that could store larger amounts of electricity, and dump it during full throttle runs? Maybe something like a drag mode where it charges the capacitors before the launch?
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Sure, this is a possible way for drag racing. But another 100HP of energy in capacitors for 10 seconds is a LOT of capacitance.
Quick math says 745,700J. If you can tolerate 50V of sag on the capacitors, that's 600F of capacitance. Not microfarads. Farads. At 500V.
This is thousands of dollars and hundreds of pounds of capacitors.
I would really like the name of this insurer as I am always trying to find policies that don't exclude events at facilities designed for racing. It's basically unheard of nowadays after a few major incidents in the mid 2000's.
You could always call hagarty or some of the other who offer track day insurance.
Given what we/people spend and do just to race around cones in a parking lot, doesn't sound like that big of a deal. I mean, there's a lot of people that won't even blink at spending $5k+ just to get 100whp. New motor, Trans, etc...
Yes, for hundreds of dollars a day. The OP posted as if it was just part of a standard automotive insurance policy.
You can't just bolt this on. Tesla would need to fully support this, warrant it, sell it, etc. Because you have to actually change the firmware in the motors to take advantage of this, and do some pretty complicated charging cycles on the capacitors. Nobody has cracked the Tesla motor and battery firmware open yet. If they did, they could just tell the car to be faster, screw the warranty on the batteries.
Meanwhile, Tesla already knows how to use batteries to make the car much faster, so why would they do this? You want a fast quarter mile? Buy a Plaid. You want to go fast around corners? Put that Roadster deposit down.
203X, and it will have a Lotus/McLaren/Mazda badge on it
Gonna be a while before Tesla isn't selling everything they can make and needs a halo car.
His was a local insurance company. However, I checked my Geico documentation and it doesn’t include any references to “racing” or “track” but it does have a clause that says if it isn’t explicitly excluded in the document then it is covered.
I don’t want to test it because I know they would try to find a way out of it but that is what the documentation says.
I think some companies have a “racing” clause but not necessarily a “track” clause. They would cover your car if you were driving 150 mph down the road as long as you aren’t “racing” anyone. Therefore, they will also cover you running around a track as long as you aren’t “racing” anyone else.
The best thing is to assume they won’t cover it but check to see if they explicitly exclude it in the documentation. If they don’t exclude it then at least you have a little bit to stand on if it does happen.
Your Geico policy doesn't have this language? It's been there when I've looked:
It's even been litigated in Berger vs Geico and Solis vs Geico.
blackT3$!@
2021 LR Model 3
Just search the internet for "dyno model 3 p" and the HP is about 470, no under reporting happening by Tesla.
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