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...you'd be just as upset...
There are probably thousands of cars that Tesla promised to deliver by year end, and they failed. People were told, "if you order now, we guarantee delivery by 12/31". Tesla will quietly settle or the class action guys will be all over it... They have settled these in the past, they will settle this one.
If you're saying too bad etc, you get nothing, you're lucky because it didn't happen to you. Had you been the unlucky one, you'd be just as upset.
So lets remember, 3k per car back to the buyers per 1000 cars. Thats 3mm, which is nothing. Tesla generated 756 million in operating cash flows last quarter.
+1I love it when people wait until the last minute and something doesn't happen and then they blame everyone else for their procrastination. It's not as if the cars have been readily available for a year.
If you had ordered it 9 months ago, you would have gotten twice the tax credit. 15 months ago would have gotten 4 times the credit.
It's a shame that Tesla wasn't able to accurately predict the number of orders of specific models that they were going to get, and then produce at least that number of every combination to make everyone happy.
Don’t think it’s exclusively a California thing. I had/have an order for an SR as a business car and in the days leading up to was contacted about an inventory LR AWD car available locally (DFWTX) with a small adjustment immediately. I entertained the idea of trading in the Mrs’ MR (Offered ~40K before sales tax credit) but it was just too late in the year to do the trade and take the now paltry tax credit on her tax filing so we passed on it. Considering changing the order to a M/Y and placing the addtl deposit money down at this point..Wikipedia defines : Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud used in retail sales but also employed in other contexts. First, customers are "baited" by merchants' advertising products or services at a low price, but when customers visit the store, they discover that the advertised goods are not available, or the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher priced items ("switching"). In the United States, no cause of action will exist if the purveyor is capable of actually selling the goods advertised, but aggressively pushes a competing product.
Here, Tesla advertises Model 3 at a low price (SR/SR+) and induce CA customers to make an order early in order to take delivery by end of year, but when customers make an order and wait, they discover that SR/SR+ are not available by end of year AND the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher priced items in order to get delivery by end of year. Tesla was capable of actually selling SR/SR+, but Tesla intentionally delayed the production of SR/SR+ in order to aggressively pushes a competing product.
Do you think we have a case?
Well, with that wording... Surely Tesla will eat the credit amount for CA buyers...I understand why the OP feels baited and switched...
My issue is that Tesla never contacted me that my vehicle will not be delivered by end of year. All reps I talked to told me that they anticipate something to be assigned to me by end of year. I only realized that I most likely won't get my vehicle year end from this forum. Even after the year concluded it was me reaching out to them for them to tell me now "late January."
I also posted this screenshot before.. but this enticed me to purchase the car to get the vehicle year end. The language "will be" sounds very definitive for CA buyers. Maybe poor word choice but eh..
What losses exactly will you be attempting to recoup in this fantasy class action?
The contract is simple. You take the car at the price offered, when it’s available, or you take your money back. Nobody owes you a dime more.
As for that “guarantee”:
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I understand why the OP feels baited and switched...
My issue is that Tesla never contacted me that my vehicle will not be delivered by end of year. All reps I talked to told me that they anticipate something to be assigned to me by end of year. I only realized that I most likely won't get my vehicle year end from this forum. Even after the year concluded it was me reaching out to them for them to tell me now "late January."
I also posted this screenshot before.. but this enticed me to purchase the car to get the vehicle year end. The language "will be" sounds very definitive for CA buyers. Maybe poor word choice but eh..
I'd do business with another company if they literally promised me something, failed to deliver, then didn't make it right.. But that is just me. I am not die hard Tesla...Doubt it. I’m firmly in the camp that they’ll tell buyers to deal with it and pay up if they want their clean driving machine.
That’s totally your right as a consumer. I personally hung on the cliffs edge of buying Tesla for over 2 years seeing if their growing pains shook out and it’s apparent that they still haven’t.I'd do business with another company if they literally promised me something, failed to deliver, then didn't make it right.. But that is just me. I am not die hard Tesla...
Wikipedia defines : Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud used in retail sales but also employed in other contexts. First, customers are "baited" by merchants' advertising products or services at a low price, but when customers visit the store, they discover that the advertised goods are not available, or the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher priced items ("switching"). In the United States, no cause of action will exist if the purveyor is capable of actually selling the goods advertised, but aggressively pushes a competing product.
Here, Tesla advertises Model 3 at a low price (SR/SR+) and induce CA customers to make an order early in order to take delivery by end of year, but when customers make an order and wait, they discover that SR/SR+ are not available by end of year AND the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher priced items in order to get delivery by end of year. Tesla was capable of actually selling SR/SR+, but Tesla intentionally delayed the production of SR/SR+ in order to aggressively pushes a competing product.
Do you think we have a case?
...The language "will be" sounds very definitive for CA buyers...
Not my intention to bring any case to court. I just always document everything.That's very good documentation here and it's very clear so I do believe that you do have a case to bring Tesla to a court.
However, when you go to court, Tesla will also show your deposit contract stating:
"Limitation of Liability. We are not liable for any incidental, special or consequential damages arising out of this Agreement. Your sole and exclusive remedy under this Agreement will be limited to reimbursement of your Order Fee."
If you didn't like that kind of limited penalty when Tesla fails you, then you should not make a deposit or you should modify your contract stating Tesla's liability to your desire.
That's very good documentation here and it's very clear so I do believe that you do have a case to bring Tesla to a court.
However, when you go to court, Tesla will also show your deposit contract stating:
"Limitation of Liability. We are not liable for any incidental, special or consequential damages arising out of this Agreement. Your sole and exclusive remedy under this Agreement will be limited to reimbursement of your Order Fee."
If you didn't like that kind of limited penalty when Tesla fails you, then you should not make a deposit or you should modify your contract stating Tesla's liability to your desire.