No it isn't.Didn't notice - and I'll assume she didn't either. Going right to 'trying to shame her father' is a bit of a stretch, imo.
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No it isn't.Didn't notice - and I'll assume she didn't either. Going right to 'trying to shame her father' is a bit of a stretch, imo.
when facts aren't enough to stand on their own then denigrating the people who have differing views becomes a common tactic of people like the OPYour dad's opinions and politics have nothing to do with what others think of the article. I would hope he doesn't ask questions regarding the things you say by prefacing it with "my extreme left wing climate alarmist daughter..." The only thing you've done by labeling your dad is to give some people an immediate bias against the article. Presumably, if you had wanted honest opinions about the article you would have not injected the question with this type of bias...
when facts aren't enough to stand on their own then denigrating the people who have differing views becomes a common tactic of people like the OP
now that's sad. there is no view in the political realm that I share with my father but he is still my father and regardless of how clueless his views are to me he is still my father and get both respect and love.If that was my father I'd sever all ties with him... I couldn't be associated with someone that misinformed and ignorant... Please do not take that as a personal attack, that's not what I'm intending.
Jeff
LOL... That's rich... Facts...??? You're telling me the right is actually interested in facts? ROFLMAO...
Jeff
So, my Dad just posted this on his Facebook. I assure you I am the only person he knows that not only has interest in a Tesla, but stood in line to reserve a Model 3 in March 31, 2016. He's extreme right wing, a climate change denyer, and I think believes it Tesla is some liberal evil organization. I admit I haven't read the whole thing yet, but will be later today. So I thought I'd post this here cause I'd like to read everybody's comments after I do.
Truth in Numbers: Tesla Motors Kind of Lied to Us
now that's sad. there is no view in the political realm that I share with my father but he is still my father and regardless of how clueless his views are to me he is still my father and get both respect and love.
Maybe to you. Not to me. We have come to a point here where even trying to reason with people is a complete waste of time. If you think climate change is a hoax, I don't have time for your ignorance. I will continue to cut people out of my life who are that ignorant. My desire to try to "change your mind" has been exhausted...
Jeff
If you cut everybody out of your life who is 'ignorant', you're going to be very, very lonely before your suicide.
There are 2 kinds of folk:
- Those who know they are ignorant.
- Those who don't know.
life is easier when groupthink is engaged, eh?Maybe to you. Not to me. We have come to a point here where even trying to reason with people is a complete waste of time. If you think climate change is a hoax, I don't have time for your ignorance. I will continue to cut people out of my life who are that ignorant. My desire to try to "change your mind" has been exhausted...
Jeff
The referenced article is at best orthogonal to reality. It's hard to identify inaccuracies in innuendo. That's how it works.the article referred to the kanban site and that one link does not corrupt the accuracy of the article, can you point to one inaccurate statement in the referenced article?
change my mind? you believe I am an ignorant fool because of my views, guess what, I think that you are not only ignorant, but that the high level that you value your opinions to be arrogant and condescending and those who think that they know all and are incapable of intelligent discourse are really the one's in need of help. you should learn how to have a mind that is open to differing views, lastly I find it sad that you would dismiss a loved one from your life because of their holding a differing political view.Maybe to you. Not to me. We have come to a point here where even trying to reason with people is a complete waste of time. If you think climate change is a hoax, I don't have time for your ignorance. I will continue to cut people out of my life who are that ignorant. My desire to try to "change your mind" has been exhausted...
Jeff
I know pretty much nothing about the details behind these filings but your theory is superficially appealing to me because Elon has mentioned that future Tesla battery Gigafactories may be co-located with vehicle assembly factories. It makes a certain amount of sense to apply that to the first battery Gigafactory as well. There seems to be room to expand that Nevada location with additional building space. They just need to shave down a few more hills.The answer is very simple:
Tesla will likely install its second production line ELSEWHERE, where it has space, and can reduce battery shipments, such as at the Gigafactory in Nevada.
That logic is totally absent from the Kanban's analysis of the California sales-tax waiver.
That is no doubt true of some “journalists”. Most — I don’t know. I hope it doesn’t apply to me.The thing about most journalists is that they start out with knowing the story they want to write & then find quotes and bits of data that support that story line. We all think they should be like investigative journalists, who search for the truth -- but they're not.
life is easier when groupthink is engaged, eh?
change my mind? you believe I am an ignorant fool because of my views, guess what, I think that you are not only ignorant, but that the high level that you value your opinions to be arrogant and condescending and those who think that they know all and are incapable of intelligent discourse are really the one's in need of help. you should learn how to have a mind that is open to differing views, lastly I find it sad that you would dismiss a loved one from your life because of their holding a differing political view.
Save a little energy. I hear rumors that some doubt the veracity of gravity. Because planes. And rockets. Birds.Yawn... I don't really care. My give a BEEP has been broken beyond repair. I don't have time to argue accepted and highly peer reviewed scientific conclusions.
Jeff
Save a little energy. I hear rumors that some doubt the veracity of gravity. Because planes. And rockets. Birds.
I know you don't care @jeffro01, but I thought this was a good post about the value of the other side:
Snippy forum #5
I thought it was a great post (by someone who is on your side of the Tesla opinion).