The functionality is still (or seems to be) light years beyond what other cars have right now.
Wow... Really?! Which ones did you try?
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The functionality is still (or seems to be) light years beyond what other cars have right now.
I am on a 30 day trial of the auto steer so I took the opportunity to try it out on a 700+ mile round trip from Phoenix to San Diego. The route is nearly all interstate 75mph in Az and 70mph in Ca. Observations:
1. The "put pressure on the wheel" occurs about 3x/mile a real pia
2. When you go by a ramp entering the freeway and you lose the right lane line the car will veer to the right trying to center itself in the temporary extra wide lane. Unsettling, especially for the passenger who is seeing the car move right toward the shoulder.
3. Lane change was the only real excitement of the trip. Sometimes the car would go into a wobble moving left then right over and over not knowing if it was safe to change lanes. Only way to stop it was grab wheel and disengage. The color of the lane marker seemed to set it off. One time this happened with freshly striped black asphalt. This alone was a deal breaker.
4. When it did successfully change lanes, I found the rate of change too fast. Not good for tire wear and uncomfortable for passengers.
5. Self steering was very good when not changing lanes as long as there were visible stripes on each side of the road.
Don't know if Tesla engineers monitor this site or data automatically uploads to Tesla when a failure occurs but these items need to be addressed. It's fun to try out these new features but there comes a point where you have to question using your customer base as beta testers.
4) It's a bit jerky. It hit the brakes first and then dives into the next lane.\
...or having to disengage when going through 15 MPH school zones because the minimum is 18 MPH.
What's interesting and kind of almost scientifically intriguing for me is that there seems to be almost no more divisive subject on the form then reports about autopilot behavior. What does it mean that a significant fraction owners report exactly this kind stuff and another large and perhaps smaller but still significant fraction vigorously disagree? I have to wonder if we're getting different functioning across different builds of the autopilot system? I have no knowledge of differences in camera systems or central computing systems, (although there is clearly updating of this Autopilot code across versions of the operating system – and that might explain some of these variabilities), but one would think with cars running the same version of the operating system and having what appear to be virtually identical camera systems that you could not get disparate behavior out of the system.
Perhaps that's just not true! I would challenge the folks who are disagreeing with this post to provide chapter and verse from their own experience with the autopilot that contradicts specific points here. I've observed much of this kind of difficulty and it's part of why I don't have high levels of confidence particularly when the autopilot system has to manage exits and other transitions. But again it may be that some owners are simply not getting this problem manifested – and those owners should step forward and clarify that their system is functioning differently. If that is confirmed, then Tesla has a major mystery on their hands.
I bought it and I own it and indeed across two separate vehicles with the same system I've observed exactly these problems. So I'm afraid your formula does not explain my results.
My hands were not heavy enough on the wheel so I had to grab the wheel- sometimes a little obnoxiously so. I tried auto pilot here and there and it was the same everytime. So to me, as a woman who may not be as heavy as some of you men, it was not worth it to me.
Agree, current auto pilot is more stressful and requires intense concentration to use in many situations. Maybe the new CPU upgrade next year will make it more comfortable than a human driver.
You can use the scroll wheels instead “of putting pressure” on the wheel.
Agreed that there are some shortcomings but I use AP all the time and find it to be a fantastic feature. Well worth the investment, for me.
Yes, this is a great solution as well.I’ve found that simply resting my hand on the wheel, so the car (apparently) detects a tiny bit of resistance, is enough to completely prevent the hands off warnings.
I am in agreement that there are a few exciting moves at lane splits, but overall I find long trips much less fatiguing.
Sorry to hear. I’ve had instances where it brakes hard for one reason or another, but nothing that caused me to not use it. I still find the pros outweigh the negatives.I also recently finished a 30 day trial. Here was the dealbreaker for me: While passing a car on the interstate while in autosteer, my Tesla 3 suddenly braked very hard for no apparent reason. I wasn't expecting it and it actually tweaked my neck. I had a sore neck for a few days afterward. I didn't use autosteer much after that.
I am on a 30 day trial of the auto steer so I took the opportunity to try it out on a 700+ mile round trip from Phoenix to San Diego. The route is nearly all interstate 75mph in Az and 70mph in Ca. Observations:
1. The "put pressure on the wheel" occurs about 3x/mile a real pia
2. When you go by a ramp entering the freeway and you lose the right lane line the car will veer to the right trying to center itself in the temporary extra wide lane. Unsettling, especially for the passenger who is seeing the car move right toward the shoulder.
3. Lane change was the only real excitement of the trip. Sometimes the car would go into a wobble moving left then right over and over not knowing if it was safe to change lanes. Only way to stop it was grab wheel and disengage. The color of the lane marker seemed to set it off. One time this happened with freshly striped black asphalt. This alone was a deal breaker.
4. When it did successfully change lanes, I found the rate of change too fast. Not good for tire wear and uncomfortable for passengers.
5. Self steering was very good when not changing lanes as long as there were visible stripes on each side of the road.
Don't know if Tesla engineers monitor this site or data automatically uploads to Tesla when a failure occurs but these items need to be addressed. It's fun to try out these new features but there comes a point where you have to question using your customer base as beta testers.
I agree. His opinion seems slanted towards justifying why he did not purchase EAP.That is your opinion - and yet thousands of us use it every single day and love it.
Nothing wrong with having an opinion
It's call confirmation bias.I think it is mostly personal perception. Whatever reason behind it is. You could find people mentioning the same facts but having opposite impressions.
Some people never ride in the cars as passengers and freak out when it makes perfectly fine maneuver just not exactly to their liking, some fail to comprehend the limitations and freak out when AP encounters those limitations, some just plain trying to use it where they shouldn't, etc...
I think this is something akin to uncanny valley - the system is so good that some fail to see it as a mere tool and expect it to behave more human-like and when they see the difference it scares them much more than less perfect system would...