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Autonomous Car Progress
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No. We decided decades ago Engineers are at fault, and they have legal authority to ensure the job is done correctly. CEOs often don't have the technical skillset needed to ensure work is done correctly. This mechanism has proven effective for civil works projects; few bridges fall due to a CEO trimming the design budget because the P.Eng has authority to cancel the project entirely when it cannot be built safely.
There are very few Software P.Eng's and most of those work on medical devices; and even then it's mostly a Canadian thing where software engineering is recognized as process distinct from typical programming.
If you want to make an individual responsible, as in jailable, for design faults then allow software people to register as a P.Eng and then require someone with that registration and legal abilities to oversee this class of project.
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diplomat33
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Wayve and Omar. Same difference. Show me the data or this is a fancy cruise control system just like Tesla's.
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Good. They've been having issues from the beginning and not seem to be improving. This is not a race, its a marathon and im in the camp of slow and steady.California DMV suspends Cruise self-driving taxis, effective immediately
The California DMV has required Cruise to halt all operations of its driverless taxis in San Francisco after one of the company’s vehicles...
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
100% agree. I think this guy makes a good point. Solving autonomous driving requires grinding through the long tail of edge cases. And deploying AVs safely requires making sure you are reasonably safe which requires testing and validating for as many edge cases as possible and having a plan to address new edge cases. If you try to rush or take a shortcut, you run the risk of deploying an unsafe AV and getting suspended like what happened with Cruise. That is why a slow and steady approach is better IMO.
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Yes it is good to see CA doing something, finally. Should have happened months ago. what does this mean for Tesla?
Likely nothing. Perhaps they install a downward facing radar near the front of the vehicle.
It seems prudent to have a method for detecting unexpected obstructions under the vehicle for autonomous snow operations anyway. When there are 6 inches of fresh snow in the parking lot (on early Monday morning), detecting that concrete curb underneath the level snow surface (which the plow accidentally relocated on Sunday evening) is going to be useful.
Concrete curbs, giant ice-blocks, random trash from a nearby bin, hidden tree branch, etc. are all things a moderate snowfall might completely hide with a bit of a breeze to create drifts.
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Agreed. Though this type of addition would strongly indicate a genuine intention of achieving a Level 4 system at some point in the future.
More license wins by MOBILEYE and still zero for Tesla. Who is the US OEM?
"We felt the impact of this proof point immediately. The successful rollout led directly to the FAW design win and an acceleration of progress toward potential design wins with other key prospects. What I mean by acceleration is that there is an increased urgency to converge toward production programs. This is reflected as more clarity from customers on next steps, for example, clear deliverables, timelines, and approval processes.
While the design win process rarely moves as fast as we want, we expect that we'll have more news on SuperVision and Chauffeur over the next five months. I'll put some numbers against it. Last quarter, we disclosed that we either had already booked design wins or were in advanced stages for SuperVision and/or Chauffeur design wins with nine OEMs representing 30% of global automotive production. That number is now 10 OEMs representing 34% of auto production.
If we go back to the beginning of 2023, that number would have been three OEMs representing 9% of the industry. This group does not include any low-volume brands or early stage start-ups, and it's broad geographically. It's one U.S. OEM, two European OEMs, four Chinese OEMs, and three Asian OEMs."
"We felt the impact of this proof point immediately. The successful rollout led directly to the FAW design win and an acceleration of progress toward potential design wins with other key prospects. What I mean by acceleration is that there is an increased urgency to converge toward production programs. This is reflected as more clarity from customers on next steps, for example, clear deliverables, timelines, and approval processes.
While the design win process rarely moves as fast as we want, we expect that we'll have more news on SuperVision and Chauffeur over the next five months. I'll put some numbers against it. Last quarter, we disclosed that we either had already booked design wins or were in advanced stages for SuperVision and/or Chauffeur design wins with nine OEMs representing 30% of global automotive production. That number is now 10 OEMs representing 34% of auto production.
If we go back to the beginning of 2023, that number would have been three OEMs representing 9% of the industry. This group does not include any low-volume brands or early stage start-ups, and it's broad geographically. It's one U.S. OEM, two European OEMs, four Chinese OEMs, and three Asian OEMs."
diplomat33
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IIRC stopping is only required for same-direction traffic as the bus in mainland China. I think it only applies to certain roadway types and even then compliance is pretty low.
Failure to give buses priority is strictly enforced. That basically means letting the bus in and out of traffic when requested via signals.
They did an overhaul of school bus laws about 10 years ago but most changes had to do with the type of vehicle and driver training allowed. Previous to that it was basically a jitney service for kids.
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It's actually even more lax, only the lane that the bus is in and the adjacent lane going the same direction (assuming there is one) is required to stop. The lanes beyond that can pass, although slowly.
Investigating the Effect of School Bus Stopping Process on Driver Behavior of Surrounding Vehicles Based on a Driving Simulator Experiment
Having seen how people drive however, I highly doubt many people actually follow that however (or necessarily are even aware of the rule). To be fair, many in the US also don't follow the school bus stop rule.
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diplomat33
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0:00 Start and Passenger Loading
0:11 Pull out
0:43 Right on red
1:12 Right on red
1:33 Slowing for parked cars
2:02 Slowing for parked cars and oncoming
2:30 Parking
2:41 Passenger loading
3:09 Pull out
4:10 Protected left turn
5:10 Protected left turn
5:42 Unprotected left turn
6:06 Bonus: Possible interior prototyping vehicle
6:21 Bonus: Station design
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