Back End Stepped Out

[Peter 224]

Something I didn't really expect...
Did you know that the M3 back end can swing out? Well it can.... as I discovered.

Hard right turn from the main road on to a side road, on the apex of a left had bend. a blind corner so I didn't linger. Wet cold road, a bit too much boot from stationary with lock applied and wow the back end started to step out....
And then the computers took over. It was beautifully controlled..
I'd like to say it was me, but it wasn't!!

I suspect that without traction control and with all the EV torque it could be quite "interesting".
Where interesting = expensive.

Has anyone else experienced this?

 

[tomorrowman]

Yup, and then checked my rear tyre tread and discovered they needed replacing

 

[pgkevet]

You can't beat physics. Apply enough turning force without enough grip and something is going to give. Here in the sticks wet leaves, gravel and ice are constant reminders. My aged 200sx is a drifters dream - RWD and a light back end and no traction control taught me to be a careful driver. The GT86 I had for a while taught me how traction control can cause brown trouser syndrome: the physics of a slide still happen and then the traction control tried to keep the car straight on the new wrong line. Given a choice I prefer to fishtail without traction control getting in the way. I;ve been too cautious to push the S to such limits with Tesla bodywork charges...

 

[AshD]

Yep, i’ve done it too i both a 2014 Model S RWD and my M3P….gonna stay away from the ‘track mode’ switch (appropriately named - not for use on her majesty’s highways)

 

[Peter 224]

Yup, and then checked my rear tyre tread and discovered they needed replacing

Mine are OK, about 6.5mm. But they nd the road were cold...

 

[Peter 224]

Yep, i’ve done it too i both a 2014 Model S RWD and my M3P….gonna stay away from the ‘track mode’ switch (appropriately named - not for use on her majesty’s highways)

So the M3P does have switchable traction control????

 

[candida]

So the M3P does have switchable traction control????

All sorts of stuff you'd be mad to try Track mode

 

[Peter 224]

All sorts of stuff you'd be mad to try Track mode

I'm glad I didn't know that when I ordered the M3 LR.... otherwise I'd probably have spent the money.....!!
Hmm..I wonder if I could upgrade at year 2?

 

[UkNorthampton]

Diesel spill?

I've seen pedestrians slip on diesel spills, I lost complete grip on a car at walking pace when it hit diesel spilled by a tractor

 

[Adopado]

Mine are OK, about 6.5mm. But they nd the road were cold...

You recently posted about multiple systems that were presently not functioning correctly ... is it possible that your traction control is affected?

 

[btc1k]

Something I didn't really expect...
Did you know that the M3 back end can swing out? Well it can.... as I discovered.

Hard right turn from the main road on to a side road, on the apex of a left had bend. a blind corner so I didn't linger. Wet cold road, a bit too much boot from stationary with lock applied and wow the back end started to step out....
And then the computers took over. It was beautifully controlled..
I'd like to say it was me, but it wasn't!!

I suspect that without traction control and with all the EV torque it could be quite "interesting".
Where interesting = expensive.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Indeed, great fun. As you say it is beautifully controlled with the computer stepping in

 

[Bouba]

Diesel spill?

I've seen pedestrians slip on diesel spills, I lost complete grip on a car at walking pace when it hit diesel spilled by a tractor

In my teens my motorcycle and me parted company on a diesel spill. This time of year you have black ice, even if the temperature is above three degrees C, a corner that is shaded can get icey

 

[mspohr]

Something I didn't really expect...
Did you know that the M3 back end can swing out? Well it can.... as I discovered.

Hard right turn from the main road on to a side road, on the apex of a left had bend. a blind corner so I didn't linger. Wet cold road, a bit too much boot from stationary with lock applied and wow the back end started to step out....
And then the computers took over. It was beautifully controlled..
I'd like to say it was me, but it wasn't!!

I suspect that without traction control and with all the EV torque it could be quite "interesting".
Where interesting = expensive.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Happened to me once going through a curve on the freeway wet road. Felt the rear slide; heard a beep; computers corrected; literally took less than one second from slide to correction. I didn't do anything to correct. Amazing car (Model S)

 

[Peter 224]

From the age of 16 to 66 I roade motorcycles....so I learned to be VERY aware of the road surface. I think this was a "simple" case of a cold wet road with a worn surface and a clumsy application of a right boot.
On the Morgan and the AMG we have winter tyres, I do wonder about fitting them to the Tesla for next winter.

I was watching a YouTube review of a Ferrari 550, wonderful V12... with about the same power and torque as a M3, the difference is that we get all the torque at 0.1mph, the 550 at 6000 rpm.....

 

[94jdh]

So the M3P does have switchable traction control????

I had a lovely moment sideways from a junction in drift mode - nice prolonged period, however I don't think the car in the opposite direction appreciated it!!

 

[Darmie]

For the non performance owners, there is an option for this.

 

[Bouba]

For the non performance owners, there is an option for this.
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How does that little thing open the driver’s door ?

 

[Darmie]

How does that little thing open the driver’s door ?

If you were to push the inside button, the door pops open ever so slightly. That's basically what the module is doing using the proximity of your phone.

Here's what the screen looks like when you log into the modules.



Link to the manual of the modules.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0266/3772/9858/files/User_Manuel_for_Ghost_EN.pdf?v=1608753251

 

[Big Earl]

Model 3 dual motor is very tail happy in slippery conditions. Be careful in the snow your first time until you get comfortable with how it responds to accelerator input. Once you get used to it, it can be very entertaining, although your passengers will probably be terrified.