While this doesn't change your argument, I just want to point out that the Bolt will have SAE Combo aka CCS QC charging, not CHAdeMO. SAE Combo QC stations that are currently available appear to all be limited to 125A maximum charge rate, though the current specifications list 200A. 125A is good for about 50 kW and 200A would be good for about 80 kW.
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Bolt EV EPA range = 238 miles combined!
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Most of the trip was at 50 mph, on a nice cool day and no pesky brake use like a city drive.
Consider the result a best case
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I'm typing this in real-time as I catch up on the rest of the topic. I'm deducing that bro1999 and luca are the same person making arguments at opposite ends of the spectrum. Let's see if I'm right...
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I estimate that a Bolt will have about the same energy consumption at 105 kph as the Model3 at 130 kph
As evidence that the Central Coast route was cherry picked, consider that Motor Trend averaged 217 wH/mi.
A car of the Bolt's size and price range doesn't need to be a long distance travel car. The Bolt SHOULD devastate Leaf sales and expand the metro area commuter market for BEV's. Whether it will remains to be seen.
A car of the Bolt's size and price range doesn't need to be a long distance travel car. The Bolt SHOULD devastate Leaf sales and expand the metro area commuter market for BEV's. Whether it will remains to be seen.
You say that so condescendingly.... Who goes faster than that?
Highway speeds are 100kph limit with the majority going 110-130kph. Dickwads go 140+.
This is an EV for the masses and it's a very compelling one to boot. You make these comparisons of the Bolt EV's price to that of similarly classed ICE vehicles but you cant. Unfortunately batteries are still pretty damn expensive, and believe it or not.. companies to need do make money...
An effective price of $30,000 is reasonable. This isn't a sports car. The general public does not need/want what the Model 3, S, X can do in terms of performance/ MOAR POWER! It suits it's demographic well.
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I checked -- about 25 feet net elevation change, so about 1 foot a mile.
I agree that the route would have made the NEDC proud but there was enough description in one article to make it obvious that this was a slow route. I was tempted to put all the hints of route used into a Google Maps to get an expected travel time but I'm too lazy.
They all followed the same route but at perhaps somewhat different speeds.
Wired says:
We Drive the $30K Chevy Bolt, GM’s Tesla-Walloping Electric Car
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Finally someone with real data. I saw a bunch of these with nothing substantive.
Initial range is only half the story though, right? Isn't degradation the other half?
If the Bolt charges up to 95-97%, what will degradation look like after 20k miles? Perhaps Chevy is expecting more leases than purchases and degradation won't matter as long as they get their feet in the door?
If the Bolt charges up to 95-97%, what will degradation look like after 20k miles? Perhaps Chevy is expecting more leases than purchases and degradation won't matter as long as they get their feet in the door?
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