Brexit

[petit_bateau]

All that sovereignty and the Brexsh1tters still can't even check a lettuce

UK Brexit checks on fresh food from EU delayed for fifth time, reports say

Government source reportedly says there are concerns extra red tape could fuel further inflation

www.theguardian.com

 

[petit_bateau]

Not often I agree with this writer, but on Brexsh1t I can

Business is haunted by Brexit – and this safety mark fiasco is its latest nightmare | Polly Toynbee

Money, time, effort all wasted: you can wrap the new red tape three times around the world, one manufacturing boss told me, writes Polly Toynbee

www.theguardian.com

and this one, who is much better

UKCA: a symbol of the folly of Brexit

<a rel="me" href="https://mastodon.online/@ChrisGrey">Mastodon</a>

chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com

 

[petit_bateau]

Somehow the ongoing Brexsh1t trainwreck gets worse

Risk of UK recession at next general election is 60%, says thinktank

Economic experts say it will take until third quarter of 2024 for output to return to pre-pandemic peak

www.theguardian.com

 

[petit_bateau]

Gosh, another Brexshit disaster that nobody saw coming, well not for more than about 8 years or more

Blow to UK salmon industry as trial post-Brexit export scheme halted

Government delays full introduction of digital certificates intended to cut paperwork for producers

www.theguardian.com

 

[UkNorthampton]

Gosh, another Brexshit disaster that nobody saw coming, well not for more than about 8 years or more

Blow to UK salmon industry as trial post-Brexit export scheme halted

Government delays full introduction of digital certificates intended to cut paperwork for producers

www.theguardian.com

The current Gov know they are on the way out, hence the switch to support fossil fuels for some more money, directorships etc

Plus some nonsense infighting, Mad Nads et al.

Everything else is left to fall apart. All I want is competence and alignment to our big market nearby. First steps need to be taken.

Medium term, might need first past the post to be changed though, maybe just electoral alliances (unofficial might do).

 

[petit_bateau]

‘It all disappeared with Brexit’: Craft beer boom ends as more than 100 UK firms go bust

‘It all disappeared with Brexit’: Craft beer boom ends as more than 100 UK firms go bust

More than a hundred breweries have shut in the past two years as new trade barriers were compounded by Covid and tax changes

www.theguardian.com

 

[petit_bateau]

That Brexsh1t feeling on a lable near you

First ‘not for EU’ labels appear on supermarket food in Northern Ireland

Labels required on some items from October on back of updated post-Brexit deal seen in Asda

www.theguardian.com

 

[Buckminster]

FT paywall
Rejoining the EU remains a very distant dream

Even returning to the single market or customs union is a hard argument for an electorate queasy about reopening divisions

Rejoining the single market or customs union is outside the mainstream agenda. As for full membership, even dedicated pro-Europeans like Tony Blair see this as generations away.

I think it could be only 10-15 years. The important thing is that brexiteers need to believe that brexit has been embraced. Demographics will ensure that a return is likely when a referendum happens. A full clean return in 10-15 years is also more likely if we don't try going down the single market route as a precursor.

 

[UkNorthampton]

FT paywall
Rejoining the EU remains a very distant dream


I think it could be only 10-15 years. The important thing is that brexiteers need to believe that brexit has been embraced. Demographics will ensure that a return is likely when a referendum happens. A full clean return in 10-15 years is also more likely if we don't try going down the single market route as a precursor.

GB/UK just needs to align with EU (as a first step). Otherwise chaos & harm (economic, environmental, food quality, importing livestock diseases etc).

 

[Buckminster]

GB/UK just needs to align with EU (as a first step). Otherwise chaos & harm (economic, environmental, food quality, importing livestock diseases etc).

You don't think that will kickoff all the arguments. Stops all other progress plus delays proper return.

 

[JupiterMan]

You don't think that will kickoff all the arguments. Stops all other progress plus delays proper return.

have the arguments ever stopped?!

partial alignment could however begin on the quiet without any initial fanfare to avoid major flare ups, but I doubt anything will happen proper until after the next election.

It will interesting to see how honest Labour/Starmer are about the situation and the countries direction of travel.

 

[UkNorthampton]

You don't think that will kickoff all the arguments. Stops all other progress plus delays proper return.

The main arguments I see on comments from Brexiteers seem to revolve around

1) Boats
2) Luxury hotels being used for (1)
3) All politicians are corrupt/same
4) "We won"
5) Tory party leadership seems a bit... non-English for them
6) Some Brexit nonsense blamed on remainers

I think enough of them have cottoned onto what's really happened, filthy water and corruption at least.

I think EU-immigration isn't a big concern now that Wetherspoons & Toby Carveries are short staffed.

There will be arguments, but fewer of them. Fool all/some of the people/time etc

Progress:- I think regulatory alignment with EU is progress. Halting divergence is a small win. I'm not aware of any other EU-friendly progress. I hope there is some, but I don't see it.

Proper Return:- I think it's unlikely the EU would want GB/UK back for some time. Other matters are more pressing for the EU. Ukraine and having 2 awkward members (Poland/Hungary) supporting each others' misbehaviour. I don't think most of the EU want another member of the awkward squad. Time will hopefully heal and sort out anti-EU mentality in England especially. I'd prefer GB/UK to be rule takers and not hinder the progress of the EU, at least for a while. I want Wexit - exit from stupidity of Westminster, influence of Putin's/Saudi/oil money & Press Barons (non-dom especially).

 

[petit_bateau]

Brexit keeps on giving

Germany refuses to extradite man to UK over concerns about British jail conditions

Court in Karlsruhe decides against extradition of Albanian man ‘in view of the state of the British prison system’

www.theguardian.com

Brexit: Dover port to reclaim land from sea to help avoid long queues

Boss says move needed to avoid ‘unacceptable’ delays as new controls threaten more disruption

www.theguardian.com

 

[Buckminster]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699425131464970750

 

[UkNorthampton]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699425131464970750

After many great minds & their research have left.

 

[UkNorthampton]

Overview of treaties, projects etc that UK/EU could align on.

Euratom might have been a step too far as it might be described as joining a "single market" in Nuclear stuff.

Further treaties will be possible only if some benefit is likely to Tory voters/MPs, so Erasmus probably low likelihood.

My personal opinion is that joining the EU is a long way away, living life as if we were members could be much closer. Gaining the benefits of EU rules while having no vote (therefore no risk/ability to derail policy or join with Poland & Hungary).

 

[petit_bateau]

Euratom might have been a step too far as it might be described as joining a "single market" in Nuclear stuff.

Euratom would have been RE-JOINING.

"Why is the UK not participating in Euratom or F4E (Fusion4Energy)/ITER (International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor)

The UK has decided not to pursue its association to Euratom and Fusion4Energy / ITER. This decision is guided by the UK's assessment that its industry's long absence from Euratom and F4E/ITER programmes cannot be reversed."

Press corner

Highlights, press releases and speeches

ec.europa.eu

i.e. the UK has already done so much damage to its nuclear research programme due to Brexit that there is no longer any point in REjoining

!!!!
the EU is on-the ball re this, so too the Guardian
Donelan did not give a detailed explanation for the decision not to rejoin Euratom. In its news release, the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero says:

Given delays to association and the direction of travel of these EU programmes, an alternative approach gives the UK the best opportunity to deliver our fusion strategy by driving job creation, investment and growth in our world-leading fusion sector.

But the European commission has given a blunter explanation in a briefing note. It says:

The UK has decided not to pursue its association to Euratom and Fusion4Energy/ITER [the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor]. This decision is guided by the UK’s assessment that its industry’s long absence from Euratom and F4E/ITER programmes cannot be reversed.

UK abandoned plans to rejoin Euratom after concluding impact of absence ‘could not be reversed’– as it happened

This live blog is now closed, you can read more on this subject here

www.theguardian.com

 

[UkNorthampton]

Euratom would have been RE-JOINING.

"Why is the UK not participating in Euratom or F4E (Fusion4Energy)/ITER (International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor)

The UK has decided not to pursue its association to Euratom and Fusion4Energy / ITER. This decision is guided by the UK's assessment that its industry's long absence from Euratom and F4E/ITER programmes cannot be reversed."

Press corner

Highlights, press releases and speeches

ec.europa.eu

i.e. the UK has already done so much damage to its nuclear research programme due to Brexit that there is no longer any point in REjoining

!!!!
the EU is on-the ball re this, so too the Guardian
Donelan did not give a detailed explanation for the decision not to rejoin Euratom. In its news release, the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero says:

Given delays to association and the direction of travel of these EU programmes, an alternative approach gives the UK the best opportunity to deliver our fusion strategy by driving job creation, investment and growth in our world-leading fusion sector.

But the European commission has given a blunter explanation in a briefing note. It says:

The UK has decided not to pursue its association to Euratom and Fusion4Energy/ITER [the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor]. This decision is guided by the UK’s assessment that its industry’s long absence from Euratom and F4E/ITER programmes cannot be reversed.

UK abandoned plans to rejoin Euratom after concluding impact of absence ‘could not be reversed’– as it happened

This live blog is now closed, you can read more on this subject here

www.theguardian.com

Proclaimed reason & real reason can and often are different. My guess is that internal party politics rule and then a reason is made up.

I hope that it's merely the words "single market" that's prevented rejoining. If not, then that's a bad piece of news. If/when the government change, this can be revisited - either undoing the harm (if possible) or looking at whether it's a political decision ("UK's assessment").

 

[petit_bateau]

All going so well in Brexshitlandia

UK fails to ban 36 harmful pesticides outlawed for use in EU

Campaigners say Britain becoming ‘toxic poster child of Europe’ and accuse ministers of breaking Brexit promise on standards

www.theguardian.com

Labour to oppose ‘reckless’ Tory plans to rip up EU pollution laws

Party announces it will vote against Conservative bid to scrap river nutrient neutrality rules for housebuilders

www.theguardian.com

UK economy shrinks by 0.5% in July amid wet weather and strikes

Manufacturing, services and construction sectors contract for first time since summer of 2022

www.theguardian.com

Britain’s fish populations are in a ‘deeply troubling state’ – report

Species such as mackerel and North Sea cod have been overfished or have reached critically low populations

www.theguardian.com

Labour can’t tax and spend its way out of trouble, warns Blair

Former PM says Starmer could face an even gloomier economic situation than he inherited from John Major

www.theguardian.com

 

[UkNorthampton]

I've been asked to buy/obtain a few handheld EU flags. Any recommendations? Given reason "I want to be patriotic but show I'm not a Brexit idiot". I wondered about EU flags with Union flag within.