From the Ford website on BlueCruise
"...you are monitored by a driver-facing camera..."
From GM websites on GM Ultra or Super Cruise
"...uses a driver facing camera..." they even call it the "Driver Attention Camera System"
From BMW
"Driver Attention Camera"
So they're all doing it. So the concern must be because only Tesla is a "data" company so therefore cannot be trusted.
Except, Ford has always used Microsoft and are just switching to that stalwart of data privacy, Google.
Who does GM use, why its Microsoft as well.
Couldn't be bothered trying to find who BMW use, but its pretty obvious its not their own system.
Common part to all - camera is required to use their ADAS.
Difference with Tesla is they tried it without a camera but have been forced into using one thanks to folks like nanny CR "protecting" us.
Tesla has feet in both camps right now, they aren't 100% camera based and still use the steering wheel torque. Really, Model 3 & Y have had cameras from the start.
Best way to avoid driver facing cameras is to not get a car that has any kind of ADAS and doesn't physically have the camera.
Best advice for the privacy concerned - definitely don't buy a new Tesla, but the earlier pre-2021 Model S/X would be good, reasonable AP etc and no driver cam.
But if privacy really is concern, then the driver cam is least of your worries with a modern connected car. They've all figured out that car telemetry is the way forward and are connecting their cars. TeslaFi shows me all the drives, charges, idles etc for my entire ownership, you know Tesla has that and more for every car they've made. Driver cam is a drop in the ocean.
Good points. See we can agree on things, it's just that the whole point about the camera is where the hiccup is.
Since you're taking it literally, yes they are both cameras, but all I'm saying is that they are different types of cameras that capture data differently using different data points. Ex. A photo vs heat signature etc... I don't like either of them and have my IR turned off.
One of the original points that still remains is the potential to be forced to keep the cabin camera on in order to use any AP functions. That's the discrepancy.