Review after review after review mentions difficulties created by putting all the controls on a touchscreen. Even friendly reviews.
Reviews of the Model S in 2012?
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Review after review after review mentions difficulties created by putting all the controls on a touchscreen. Even friendly reviews.
Tesla gets cells from Panasonic and Tesla turns them into batteries (packs). BMW buys its packs from Samsung and has little to no experience making batteries. Note that technically a "battery" is a collection of cells. It is common for people to call an individual cell a "battery" but its not technically correct.
These are the same reviewers who criticized the iPhone for the very same reason. We have heard this before.Review after review after review mentions difficulties created by putting all the controls on a touchscreen. Even friendly reviews.
It's all relative. Relative to a Ford Fiesta I guess you are right it looks good. Relative to a car in its price range it doesn't look good at all.
There is also quite a bit of technology in the Tesla battery packs.Tesla is also deeply involved with the battery chemistry that goes into the cells and are related to the specific performance characteristics needed for the Tesla pack and car.
It is shocking to me how little discussion there is about the weight, space and efficiency of the Model 3 vs other EVs.
The 3 is clearly superior to the S on these metrics. And least we forget, there isn’t a single non-Tesla car on the market that can match the specs from a 2012 Model S.
GM Versus Tesla: Bolt EV And Model 3 Battery Packs ComparedThere is also quite a bit of technology in the Tesla battery packs.
Sure looks to me like they build the packs themselves:Tesla gets cells from Panasonic and Tesla turns them into batteries (packs). BMW buys its packs from Samsung and has little to no experience making batteries.
According to motortrend it is 119 feet for 60 to 0 with the 19 inch sport wheels which is pretty goodI'm hoping the braking performance is very good.
Exactly. The C&D "reviewers" failed to do their homework by familiarizing themselves with the UI and the concept for future development. It does take a few minutes to understand how the UI works, but they made a rush to judgement. As Xavier says, those who own a model 3 and use the UI on a daily basis, say it is not an issue. And refinements to the UI are coming out via OTA on a regular basis. C&D got their feelings hurt because Elon would not give them a model 3 to do a hit piece, I mean review, of the car and they just made themselves look foolish.These are the same reviewers who criticized the iPhone for the very same reason. We have heard this before.
Every person who has bought the car has been saying the same thing: it's not an issue!!!!
Exactly. The C&D "reviewers" failed to do their homework by familiarizing themselves with the UI and the concept for future development. It does take a few minutes to understand how the UI works, but they made a rush to judgement. As Xavier says, those who own a model 3 and use the UI on a daily basis, say it is not an issue. And refinements to the UI are coming out via OTA on a regular basis. C&D got their feelings hurt because Elon would not give them a model 3 to do a hit piece, I mean review, of the car and they just made themselves look foolish.
These are the same reviewers who criticized the iPhone for the very same reason. We have heard this before.
Every person who has bought the car has been saying the same thing: it's not an issue!!!!
why would they need the sub brand for their EVs when their MAIN line will have EVs? Thats what this is aboutSpeaking of BMW
BMW hints at no future for its i3 electric car
Hmmm. Maybe this isn’t as easy as some think
Cars aren't phones. Touchscreens improved phones because they enabled far more functions to fit on a tiny surface area. Cars don't have the surface area limitation that phones do. If you have the space for buttons, buttons are better than touchscreens as control surfaces, especially in moving vehicles where you're bouncing around because you have to touch the screen at just the right spot, and take your eyes off the road to do it.These are the same reviewers who criticized the iPhone for the very same reason. We have heard this before.
Every person who has bought the car has been saying the same thing: it's not an issue!!!!
I stand corrected. I was working from the post I was replying to that said that BWM buys packs. I should have done some research.Sure looks to me like they build the packs themselves:
And "little to no experience"? Their "Project i" started around 10 years ago. They made batteries for the Mini E back then and later for the i3/i8, and they are also mass producing smaller batteries for their plugin hybrids such as the 330e. They also continue to invest significant amounts of money into battery and power train research:
BMW invest $240 million to bring electric car range to 430 miles with new battery cell center
I'm sure it's no different for many of the other car makers. For example, here's an article about Mercedes adding battery assembly to one of their plants:
Mercedes adds battery pack production to another factory as part of electric car transition
Just because the big car makers don't constantly publicize selected details from their production processes like Tesla does doesn't mean nothing is happening ...
In what way will it be much more costly? The Chevy Bolt seems to do pretty well with pouch cells. It weighs about the same as the short-range version of the Model 3 will and has a similar price, but has higher battery capacity and slightly more range.I don't think any other car maker is using cylindrical cells, but I believe that we will see in the future that Tesla made the right decision while others chose the easy path that will be much more costly in the long run (not just in terms of dollars). Time will tell.