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So can you list all of these mainstream 120+ kW charging EVs that will be for sale in the US in 2021? Or are you talking about 2022 model years that they say will be available in the Fall of 2021?

I'll start the list for you:
  • Porsche Taycan: But only at 800+ volt CCS chargers unless you pay for an optional 150kW charging unit. (But I wouldn't really call this a mainstream vehicle.)
I can begin the list for you. Keep in mind I am only talking about CCS cars
  1. Audi Etron
  2. VW ID4
  3. Hyundai Ioniq5
  4. GM Bolt EUV
  5. Ford Mach-E
  6. Volvo XC40
  7. Nissan Ariya
 
I can begin the list for you. Keep in mind I am only talking about CCS cars
  1. Audi Etron
  2. VW ID4
  3. Hyundai Ioniq5
  4. GM Bolt EUV
  5. Ford Mach-E
  6. Volvo XC40
  7. Nissan Ariya

There's an exciting new crop of EVs coming. In the context of this thread, though, it's unlikely the speed of the CCS adapter being discussed here is going to be a major limiting factor in the near future. Most of the 100 kW+ CCS stations in the U.S. are Electrify America installations, and most of those are on routes that are well covered by Tesla supercharging networks. The CCS chargers that will be most useful to Tesla owners are the ones off the supercharger routes, and the vast majority of these are 50-62.5 kW, even brand new installations.
 
I can begin the list for you. Keep in mind I am only talking about CCS cars
  1. Audi Etron
  2. VW ID4
  3. Hyundai Ioniq5
  4. GM Bolt EUV
  5. Ford Mach-E
  6. Volvo XC40
  7. Nissan Ariya

How many of those could you buy in the US in the next 3 months? 6 months?

Ok, I've had time to finish diner and can now waste some time researching your list:
  1. Audi Etron: Ok, I forgot about this one.
  2. VW ID4: Max 125kW, but not available until mid 2021. (Unless you pre-reserved the "1st Edition")
  3. Hyundai Ioniq5: I can't find any official specs or availability dates. I see June/July delivery dates for some countries but nothing for the US. But they say it supports bi-directional charging, which the CCS standard doesn't yet. So maybe it is CHAdeMO? (Or maybe they are going non-standard?)
  4. GM Bolt EUV: It looks like a 2022 model year available in late 2021, no official specs available yet.
  5. Ford Mach-E: Available in late summer, but from what Ford has said 60% going to Europe, so very limited NA availability.
  6. Volvo XC40: Expected to go on sale in early 2021, so maybe?
  7. Nissan Ariya: available for sale as early as the fall of 2021, up to 130kW.
So it looks like all of 2 cars available to purchase now, maybe more by mid-to-end of 2021, if they aren't delayed further than they already have been. So it really doesn't seem like the majority of cars available in 2021, excluding Teslas, will be able to charge at 120+kW. Or am I really missing something?
 
Ok, I've had time to finish diner and can now waste some time researching your list:
  1. Audi Etron: Ok, I forgot about this one.
  2. VW ID4: Max 125kW, but not available until mid 2021. (Unless you pre-reserved the "1st Edition")
  3. Hyundai Ioniq5: I can't find any official specs or availability dates. I see June/July delivery dates for some countries but nothing for the US. But they say it supports bi-directional charging, which the CCS standard doesn't yet. So maybe it is CHAdeMO? (Or maybe they are going non-standard?)
  4. GM Bolt EUV: It looks like a 2022 model year available in late 2021, no official specs available yet.
  5. Ford Mach-E: Available in late summer, but from what Ford has said 60% going to Europe, so very limited NA availability.
  6. Volvo XC40: Expected to go on sale in early 2021, so maybe?
  7. Nissan Ariya: available for sale as early as the fall of 2021, up to 130kW.
So it looks like all of 2 cars available to purchase now, maybe more by mid-to-end of 2021, if they aren't delayed further than they already have been. So it really doesn't seem like the majority of cars available in 2021, excluding Teslas, will be able to charge at 120+kW. Or am I really missing something?
E-Tron's expensive not a large seller in the US: Audi e-tron Sales In U.S. Hit New Record In Q3 2020.

HyunKia seems not at all serious about selling BEVs in the US so I'd expect extremely limited availability of Ioniq5 in the US, esp. outside CARB emission states. That's been their pattern in the US since the beginning of BEVs w/the virtual vaporware So Cal only gen 1 Ioniq which was in that state for a very long time. (Search for Ioniq at Monthly Plug-In EV Sales Scorecard: Historical Charts. Looks like they went on "sale" in the US in 2017.) I expect most production to end up in Europe for them to avoid CO2 emissions fines there.

I doubt HyunKia would suddenly revert to CHAdeMO in the US. Gen 1 Soul EV was CHAdeMO but they amazingly flipped to CCS with gen 2 but it looks the US will never get it: Report: Kia Soul EV not returning to US market.

Volvo's been mostly talk in the US, as well so I wouldn't be surprised if their story ends up being similar to HyunKia (most cars going to Europe).
 
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Time to do some testing...

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Pretty brief documentation; a couple of pages. There is a battery inside the adapter that has to be turned on when using...

Unfortunately, the adapter didn't work work for me (Model 3). I went to two different Electrify America stations made by BTC Power and one eVgo station made by ABB (industry standard stations). If the car was left unlocked, the error on the charger screen is communications related and the charging session won't start. If the car is locked, then the error on the charger screen is a proximity error and the charging session won't start. I tried several different combinations at each charger, and spent about 45 minutes on the phone with EA support. It just wouldn't work...

Will reach out to Setec, but I don't see them being able to work any magic. I followed the instructions to the letter, and have a lot of experience charging Teslas and using the Chademo adapter (so I'm pretty confident it isn't pilot error). Will probably pursue a return...
 
Pretty brief documentation; a couple of pages. There is a battery inside the adapter that has to be turned on when using...

Unfortunately, the adapter didn't work work for me (Model 3). I went to two different Electrify America stations made by BTC Power and one eVgo station made by ABB (industry standard stations). If the car was left unlocked, the error on the charger screen is communications related and the charging session won't start. If the car is locked, then the error on the charger screen is a proximity error and the charging session won't start. I tried several different combinations at each charger, and spent about 45 minutes on the phone with EA support. It just wouldn't work...

Will reach out to Setec, but I don't see them being able to work any magic. I followed the instructions to the letter, and have a lot of experience charging Teslas and using the Chademo adapter (so I'm pretty confident it isn't pilot error). Will probably pursue a return...

Oh no! That's a shame, but maybe Setec can fix it with a firmware update somehow? Did it come with a USB stick, like I think was mentioned on the website? Anyway, thanks for the report!
 
Pretty brief documentation; a couple of pages. There is a battery inside the adapter that has to be turned on when using...

Unfortunately, the adapter didn't work work for me (Model 3). I went to two different Electrify America stations made by BTC Power and one eVgo station made by ABB (industry standard stations). If the car was left unlocked, the error on the charger screen is communications related and the charging session won't start. If the car is locked, then the error on the charger screen is a proximity error and the charging session won't start. I tried several different combinations at each charger, and spent about 45 minutes on the phone with EA support. It just wouldn't work...

Will reach out to Setec, but I don't see them being able to work any magic. I followed the instructions to the letter, and have a lot of experience charging Teslas and using the Chademo adapter (so I'm pretty confident it isn't pilot error). Will probably pursue a return...

What firmware version do you have installed on your Model 3?
 
It's here!! Alas, I still have no car :(

My SA says 12/31 - which is doable since I love 20 minutes from the factory. Ugh. Killing me waiting.

So, enjoy these, user guide included.

To verify earlier guesses - it has internal power/electronics and a battery to do the handshake (you can see I turned it on in one of the photos). The USB port can be used to charge the battery as well as to make software upgrades.

The "Temp Raring" is not inspiring confidence. LOL.

Feels pretty solidly made. I will upload the rest of the pics in a follow up post. Limited to 10 per.

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Feel free to shoot questions my way since I need to distract myself from NOT HAVING MY CAR.
 

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