Charging a Model 3 on 22kW / 3 phase industrial outlets

[PoppyH]

Dear All,

I am a first time Tesla owner and have just picked up a Model 3.

I really like the car but have a charging question, if anyone can help.

I would like to know if I can charge from the 3 phase 22kW industrial (Commando) red outlets at my workplace. Please see image attached.

If I can, does anyone know where I can get an adapter cable to change the supplied Type 2 socket that I use on my Rolec wallpod at home to enable me to plug into the Commando outlet at work ?

Another guy at work has an electric Jaguar that he plugs in to these but he uses a very expensive cable from Juice Technology called a Booster https://www.juice-technology.com/juice-booster?lang=en This works fine but is maga expensive at about £900.

Is this the only solution or is there a less expensive way to do it ?

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation

Dave

 

[AC81]

Hi Dave,

Did you manage to find an adaptor that worked?

 

[Candleflame]

you need a gen 1 umc and then the EU three phase adapter with it and then make yourself an adapter to go from eu three phase to commando (that said the picture looks like EU three phase, not commando. commando should only have 3 pins...)

 

[AC81]

thanks for the reply. for the type 1 cables tesla supplies the attached adaptor which works with a UK 3-phase charger. I can't seem to find one for the type 2 cable

 

[dmurphy]

www.evseadapters.com has what you need.

For Tesla Model S, Model 3, Model X, & Model Y Gen 2 – EVSE Adapters

better solution than looking for a Gen1 adapter.

and if they don’t have one in the online store, email or call them. They can make almost anything for you.

 

[Candleflame]

There are no type 1 ca

www.evseadapters.com has what you need.

For Tesla Model S, Model 3, Model X, & Model Y Gen 2 – EVSE Adapters

better solution than looking for a Gen1 adapter.

and if they don’t have one in the online store, email or call them. They can make almost anything for you.

gen 1 adapters are much cheaper than the evesadapters.

 

[dmurphy]

There are no type 1 ca

gen 1 adapters are much cheaper than the evesadapters.

Depends - if you already have the Gen2 adapter that came with the car, adding the EVSE adapter is much cheaper than buying a Gen1 and the appropriate adapters ...

 

[Candleflame]

Depends - if you already have the Gen2 adapter that came with the car, adding the EVSE adapter is much cheaper than buying a Gen1 and the appropriate adapters ...

The issue is dmurphy that Gen 2 maxes out at 32A x 1 phase so you are very much limited in your power draw.
So from a three phrase 16A outlet you can only pull 16A which is the same as the regular UK plug.

I guess a valid argument would be that unlike Russia/Australia/other huge countries high amperage AC charging isn't really needed and overnight even 16A isn't too bad. I guess that's true and in that case it is a valid option.
That said, if you arrive with 5% at 21:00 at a hotel and plug into a 3 phase 16A outlet and want to leave at 08:00 the next day you will only be at 60%. If it is a 32A 3 phase outlet you'd be able to pull 32A with the gen 2 UMC which would mean you'd get a full charge...

A Gen 1 UMC would allow you to pull 48A (spread over 3 phases of 16A each) which particularly in remote Australia where the grid often runs on 245V means a full charge only takes around 5:30h....