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Charging in Detroit - making the trek to NAIAS

Discussion in 'Midwest/Great Lakes' started by mnx, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. mnx

    mnx 2013 P85

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    So i'm thinking about taking my Model S to the NAIAS on the 23rd. Are there any 80A L2 EVSE's in town? From searching plugshare it doesn't look like it. It appears the fastest L2 charging available is 40A at the Atheneum Suite Hotel. Even at 40A I think I'd need a good 6 hours of charging to make it back to the Woodstock, ON Supercharger. It's a real shame the Supercharger in Comber, ON hasn't been built yet, it would save me the hassle of finding destination charging.

    Any thoughts/tips etc are much appreciated!
     
  2. siai47

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    The supercharger map shows two 80 amp Tesla connectors located at the Atheneum Suite Hotel in Detroit. For guest use only. It looks like the hotel on Brush street isn't far from where you are going.
     
  3. Rifleman

    Rifleman Now owns 2 Model S's!!!

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    I am running the same numbers on charging in Detroit. Round trip from Maumee to Detroit and back would be cutting it pretty close in my 60 this time of year. While there is some L2 in Detroit, if there is any weekend that it is all going to be in use/ice'd this is it. If this cold snap continues into this weekend, I may end up just taking the Volt instead.
     
  4. SteelGrey

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    The Compuware visitor parking (off of Farmer Street between Gratiot and Monroe) has 8 free L2 charging spots that are usually wide open on the weekends and after 6:00 PM daily but are fully utilized during the typical work day. Cost to park is $10 flat after 4:00 and on weekends. Hard Rock will validate parking if you stop in for a meal or a drink. FWIW, I have heard that the HPWCs at the Antheneum are running at 40A but I have not verified this.

    If all goes well, I should have my 80A HPWC installed on Thursday 1/15 and am happy to coordinate its use for those needing to top off. I am located near M-59 and I-94 about 35 minutes NE of downtown.
     
  5. JohnQ

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    As noted, the Atheneum has 2 80A chargers (caveat, I haven't charged there) but they are listed as only available to guests.
    There are a very large number of L2 chargers in parking garages in Detroit and they tend to be available. I've charged in the Compuware building a number of times.
     
  6. islandbayy

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    Up to 80 Amp it says. I checked, they are connected and provide 40 amps. Best off at the MGM Grand casino 3/4 mile from the convention center. they have 24, yes, TWENTY FOUR J1772 stations.

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    If you can charge slowly, MGM Grand Casino has 24 x 30 amp stations. Then, once you get back on the canadian side, there are two Sun Country Highway 80 Amp 240v stations. Since you have a P85, you should have Dual Chargers. You can get a BIG charge while stepping out for something to eat. You can even get some charge BEFORE crossing into USA, then top off on a J1772 while at the EV-ent. Millenium Garage directly across the street from the convention center has two J1772 Chargepoints. Thats what I usually use when attending the auto show.

    I camped out at MGM last night. While slow, I did replentish enough to more then make it back to Maumee Super duper charger, and still allowing me to take a side trip to American Pawn and Loan to try and get on TV by pawning my Model S hehehee.

    When I pulled up, I was the only car at MGM on Level 6 where the stations are. Tucked myself into my sleeping bag, took a 4 hour snoose, woke up, every parking space in the entire level is full, and 22 cars total are charging @_@ One other Model S, the rest are Volt's, CMax's, and other Hybrids..... They should all be more then full by now ;( Ive been awake for 2 hours now, and they were all here before I woke up. While it's nice that hybrids are plug in now, but at the same time, It angers me, because they can use gas to get places, we NEED charging stations to get anywhere. especially with no superchargers around.

    Either way, MGM is the best bet. Few charging spaces open right now, and hopefully some people leave. Given that they are all hybrids accept for the one other Model S, h9opefully they wont stay plugged in all day. But wow, 24 stations!!! Thats the most ive ever seen in one place.
     
  7. arijaycomet

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    Nice thread... the wife/I are headed up to NAIAS tomorrow (Weds) for industry preview days (my stamping company sells to 2nd/3rd tier automotive). We have an S85 2014, so we plan to just supercharge in Maumee, OH ... then make the trip to the show-and-back on a full 90-100% charge. Hopefully weather permits this, but I had contemplated L2 charging in the area. Seems like there are some decent options perhaps....
     
  8. islandbayy

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    If it was summer, you could do it with a 60 without doing side trips or drives. The heat just sucks too much out of a 60. You should have absoolutly no problem with a 85.
     
  9. mnx

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    I ran the #'s in EVtrip planner and it sounds like a no go for me. If I drive 110km/h and the outside temp is -8C I'll use up 79.7kWh (266 rated miles) to get there.

    Since I'm bringing a friend I want this to be a positive Tesla experience. Topping off at L2 EVSE's along the route is not an option. It also sounds like finding an EVSE close to the show could be difficult.

    Finally I'd need to stay for 6.5 hours to charge the batteries enough to make it back to the Woodstock Supercharger and that's assuming a 10kW charge rate at the Anthenum Hotel. On a 6kW (30A, 200V) EVSE it would be ~11 hours.

    I think this is one of those trips that is either too risky or involves too many compromises. If I were going by myself I might've attempted it....
     

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