Condo ChargePoint charging costs are the same as ICE gas cost

[AL986]

Hi all - have been happily driving my MS for a few weeks now and wanted to share the realities for those who don’t have access to home charging. I live in a condo so I utilize chargepoint stations available to me in my building as well as the Tesla supercharger network where I can.

I have found EV costs to be higher than ICE on a weekly basis.

For comparison I came from an ICE sesan which gave me 35 mpg on my daily commute of 100 miles. At $4/gallon that’s only $11.43 in gas.

In 1 week, I will spend ~$75 on chargepoint alone.

Just a word of caution for those that don’t have access to cheap charging solutions!

YMMV

 

[AL986]

Forgot to add that I spend $60/week on gas for my ICE.

FWIW. Wouldn’t dream of going back to ICE!

 

[traxila]

Hi all - have been happily driving my MS for a few weeks now and wanted to share the realities for those who don’t have access to home charging. I live in a condo so I utilize chargepoint stations available to me in my building as well as the Tesla supercharger network where I can.

I have found EV costs to be higher than ICE on a weekly basis.

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For comparison I came from an ICE sesan which gave me 35 mpg on my daily commute of 100 miles. At $4/gallon that’s only $11.43 in gas.

In 1 week, I will spend ~$75 on chargepoint alone.

Just a word of caution for those that don’t have access to cheap charging solutions!

YMMV

OMG they are reaming you for the juice. SO sorry. Just not right.

 

[Rockster]

This is more an indictment of ChargePoint than of EV's in general.

 

[jeffro01]

The thread title is ridiculously misleading... Yes, if you're going to pay ChargePoints horrendously marked up rates then you will pay more than gas...

Jeff

 

[Derek Kessler]

I have found EV costs to be higher than ICE on a weekly basis.

No, you've found that ChargePoint is more expensive.

 

[David99]

It's not even ChargePoint's fault. The person owning the station is setting the prices, not ChargePoint. I remember looking at a condo a while ago and they have a ChargePoint station installed. The property owner set the price at 34 ct kWh. Once I found that out, I didn't even look at the place. Nope!

 

[Benjanos]

Not exactly your point, but then imagine you had a non Tesla car and relied 100% on the public network... and wanted to do the odd road trip. Hmmmmmm.... I think a lot of public charging is going to match the price of petrol because those that provide it will model it this way I guess.

Still recon the Super Charger network is the next best thing to landing a man on Mars Hence I chuckle when the media get their panties in a wad about stuff... “ahhh, ooooooh, Elon said he would build 5000/week and he’s a few months late, we have to panic, the company is in free fall and will go bankrupt!”. Good Lord spare me.

My pills are here somewhere, let me find them...

 

[Boourns]

You're probably better off only supercharging if you can.

 

[tomas]

Hi all - have been happily driving my MS for a few weeks now and wanted to share the realities for those who don’t have access to home charging. I live in a condo so I utilize chargepoint stations available to me in my building as well as the Tesla supercharger network where I can.

I have found EV costs to be higher than ICE on a weekly basis.

View attachment 335867

For comparison I came from an ICE sesan which gave me 35 mpg on my daily commute of 100 miles. At $4/gallon that’s only $11.43 in gas.

In 1 week, I will spend ~$75 on chargepoint alone.

Just a word of caution for those that don’t have access to cheap charging solutions!

YMMV

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There are dozens in LA. Not sure what level of charging you are doing at Olympic blvd. Level 2 charging is 3 cents a minute. That would be 6 to 7 cents per mile charging at about 27 miles per hour, which is less than half of what you are paying. If you get a chademo adapter, you can charge faster. I don’t know what your times on chart are. Is that charging time? If you are parking plugged in overnight, you may be paying for a bunch of connected minutes when car is not even charging. Gotta pay attention to rate structure. You are somehow paying 2 to 3x above market.

Best solution of all: talk your condo board into letting you put in a charger. It is a great amenity, there are a ton of threads about how to convince associations.

 

[Xenoilphobe]

ChargePoint is sticking it to you. It's kinda like buying Fiji Water, the price per gallon is stupid, but people buy it anyway over using tap water.

 

[ewoodrick]

Hi all - have been happily driving my MS for a few weeks now and wanted to share the realities for those who don’t have access to home charging. I live in a condo so I utilize chargepoint stations available to me in my building as well as the Tesla supercharger network where I can.

I have found EV costs to be higher than ICE on a weekly basis.



For comparison I came from an ICE sesan which gave me 35 mpg on my daily commute of 100 miles. At $4/gallon that’s only $11.43 in gas.

In 1 week, I will spend ~$75 on chargepoint alone.

Just a word of caution for those that don’t have access to cheap charging solutions!

YMMV

Your data indicates that you really need to think twice about your charging process. Plugging in and sitting on a charger that charges per hour is far from an optimal solution. Look at the last 3 days, the day with the least miles are the most expensive.
You are charging at a site that is $1 per hour for 4 hours, then $3 hour afterwards. You can probably get the 100 miles in less than 4 hours. Unplugging at lunch would definitely help, plus since it doesn't look that you really need it, unplugging at lunch would let others use the spot. Having a car plugged in, not charging, is just as bad as the spot being ICE'd and it's also why ChargePoint dramatically raises their price after 4 hours. You should be getting pinged when charging is complete.

If you were to unplug at lunch and/or swap out with supercharging once or twice a week, then your costs will plummet.

I would check some of your data (or maybe it is me that is reading it wrong) 40 minutes at $2.33 seems to be higher than it is supposed to be. And 8:42 hours seems lower than what it supposed to be.

So ,yes, ChargePoint isn't cheap. And yes, you have the opportunity to slash your costs and be a considerate public charger.

At 100 miles per day, you are using about 25kWHs. Those ChargePoint plugs seem to support 6.6 kW, which means that you should be able to top off in 3.8 hours and therefore cost $4/day.
If you paid for supercharger, then you would pat $0.26 per kWH or $6.50 per day.

So, it is indeed possible to pay less than 1/3 the cost of your ICE.

 

[luckyj]

Probably should update your title, since it says cost is the same but your post says it's higher.

But probably should really update it per some of the comments from other folks - your choice of where you get kWh can make charging cost more than gas. Should be no surprise...??? But good to let folks know to be careful.

 

[smartypnz]

Probably better to rethink your charging regimen before placing blame to others.

Lots of good information and advice here on the TMC board, on Tesla Forums, and most importantly on Tesla's own website.

Don't make yourself look bad by not learning about your car.

 

[KJD]

Forgot to add that I spend $60/week on gas for my ICE.

FWIW. Wouldn’t dream of going back to ICE!

You really should look into getting a better charging solution than charge point. Here is how other people are solving this problem.

Condo Charging - Minimal cost installation and some questions

Successful completion of Condo charging installation – Now I can charge at home!

 

[steinermeister]

Looks like you live at the Ritz Carlton Residences in downtown LA? By far, some of the worst chargers are nearby and on premise around LA Live. Not sure you have an alternative without making it inconvenient. A new station is supposedly being opened in downtown, but I can't imagine it being all that convenient either given the density in downtown alone. An EV just might've not been the right choice giving the living situation?

Good luck

 

[ucmndd]

It's not even ChargePoint's fault. The person owning the station is setting the prices, not ChargePoint. I remember looking at a condo a while ago and they have a ChargePoint station installed. The property owner set the price at 34 ct kWh. Once I found that out, I didn't even look at the place. Nope!

+1. I've spent many many hours charging on "ChargePoint" stations that are completely free. Property owners set the rates.

 

[AL986]

Thanks all for the advice. Agree that I've discovered that Chargepoint is. Expensive. Unfortunately there are no other convenient solutions aside from introducing other alternative charging routines (ie. supercharging or other destination chargers) into my daily life. Thanks for the advice on the pricing structure of chargepoint. Reading @ewoodrick and @tomas posts had led me to understand there is something definitely wrong with the pricing of this chargepoint station. All times on this are the 'car plugged in charging' time. I don't think I've been charged for any 'car plugged in but not charging' time. Yet.

 

[Bebop]

where is the nearest supercharger to you? It might make more sense to wait till you are almost empty and then go fill up at a supercharger station when you need too.

 

[Magellan55]

Also keep in mind you aren't making an apples-apples comparison to your old ICE if it got 35 mpg. Compare it to an equivalent ICE with 400+ HP and 0-60 of 4s. Something like an Audi S7 getting 24 mpg highway running on premium.