Giving the fact that M3P with bigger battery than long range has less range because of the difference in motor, is it possible that a M3LR after AB upgrade would get less range than M3LR without AB since the AB causes higher power output?
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Yes absolutely correct. In fact it is technically more efficient to accelerate quicker in a Model 3 and then coast as opposed to accelerating very slowly the entire time as long as both runs have the same average speed.Unlike ICE, efficiency doesn't crater under hard acceleration- it goes down some due to increased heat losses, but nothing like ICE which reaches its peak modest efficiency only under max load (top gear). In lower gears, ICE is staggeringly wasteful, part of the big efficiency difference between the two types of powertrain.
I thought the LR had 75kwM3P and LR have the same 82.1 KWh battery. If you don't ask the car for more power it won't give you more power. Acceleration Boost only affects efficiency because you can ask the car to go faster than you could without it. Your right foot controls efficiency more than any other parameter.
Originally both LR and P had ~75 kw/hr (78 or so with buffer). Range difference entirely due to wheel and tire efficiencyI thought the LR had 75kw
I see.Originally both LR and P had ~75 kw/hr (78 or so with buffer). Range difference entirely due to wheel and tire efficiency
It’s been discussed in another thread and this post specifically confirms it. What battery cells are in the 2023 M3 LR?Can you list a source for this information?
That's the curve ball. Earlier in the year, it had Panasonic 2170 w/ rated range of 358. We have that model, but some time in the early Spring, they started shipping w/ LGs less energy dense 2170, and range dropped to estimated 333. Ours shows estimated range of 362 - but the battery is still virginal.It’s been discussed in another thread and this post specifically confirms it. What battery cells are in the 2023 M3 LR?
There would be no rhyme or reason for Tesla to reduce the EPA range of the Model 3 LR for 2023 if it still used the same Panasonic 82kWh pack as before.
Yep people that got early 2023 deliveries had the Panasonic battery still, but people that received the LR after the months long production hiatus got the LG battery.That's the curve ball. Earlier in the year, it had Panasonic 2170 w/ rated range of 358. We have that model, but some time in the early Spring, they started shipping w/ LGs less energy dense 2170, and range dropped to estimated 333. Ours shows estimated range of 362 - but the battery is still virginal.
Very informative. I didn't realize they had made the switch for the 2023 cars.It’s been discussed in another thread and this post specifically confirms it. What battery cells are in the 2023 M3 LR?
There would be no rhyme or reason for Tesla to reduce the EPA range of the Model 3 LR for 2023 if it still used the same Panasonic 82kWh pack as before.
Lot of people were not too pleased with the range reduction. LG has had their problems (including a higher incidence of battery fires than any other battery manufacturer),so we are really pleased that we got the Panasonic pack.Very informative. I didn't realize they had made the switch for the 2023 cars.
November in Seattle might be a little colder than say November in the South of France where I live...and where my two year old M3LR with the smaller 75kwh battery with about a 3% loss, would still fill to about 325 miles or moreI don’t have the $2k speed boost, so what I referred to was happy feed passing cars.
I filled my battery a few days ago preparing for a long drive to 100%. 2 month old long range and it showed 310miles and not 333.
I grabbed the boost for my 2018 model 3.The option to buy the acceleration boost tempts me from time to time - cheap thrills, eh?
I know this : if ever I do opt for the boost range will be the furthest most from my mind as a consideration.
I'm sure that just as it was in my 1957 Chevy Impala, owned in 1966, when I pushed the gas pedal down so went the fuel gauge...down.
Don't tell her about adding it to the car.You guys are so lucky I can’t have Acceleration Boost because the wife thinks the car is already too fast
Are banking rules different in the US ?....because here, the wife balances the check bookDon't tell her about adding it to the car.