Sales tax laws vary by State. I used to work in IT and had a $1M Microsoft contract. If it was all electronic, there was no sales tax. However, although we download all the software, if I requested Microsoft mail us a set of physical discs, I was obligated to pay sales tax on $1M !!
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EAP upgrade $5500 until Sept 24
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ℬête Noire
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You could try calling and asking if they would match the lower price. All they can do is say no, and you are at no right now. . . I have seen something similar work before.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Over 10 years the 'ownership tax' (aka property tax) on a car in Colorado is about 8%. Buying an upgrade after car purchase skirts this tax.
As for EAP -- I put the funds into a bigger battery and am VERY happy with my choice. If Tesla decides in the future to part out dynamic CC and /or lane keep assist for ~ $1k each option I'll buy.
As for EAP -- I put the funds into a bigger battery and am VERY happy with my choice. If Tesla decides in the future to part out dynamic CC and /or lane keep assist for ~ $1k each option I'll buy.
Now that I’d be looking forward to.
we’ve leased cars with AP1 and 2 and but now own our MX and M3 and decided to skip EAP when we bought them. I haven’t missed EAP one bit and my wife never used it once.
The only option part of EAP i do wish i had is Summon. I’d pay $1000-1500 just for that feature subset. They can keep the rest of the self driving EAP.
we’ve leased cars with AP1 and 2 and but now own our MX and M3 and decided to skip EAP when we bought them. I haven’t missed EAP one bit and my wife never used it once.
The only option part of EAP i do wish i had is Summon. I’d pay $1000-1500 just for that feature subset. They can keep the rest of the self driving EAP.
Following up after talking to my CPA in case anyone else is interested...
"Remember the email I sent out in late June regarding the Supreme Court ruling on sales tax nexus? The bottom line is sales tax will now be charged on every product in every state, regardless of where you buy it from. This even applies to software that is downloaded and not necessarily tangible. The states have been hurting for revenue for a long time because of places like Amazon, so this ruling levels the playing field so that all businesses, whether they be Internet retailers or traditional brick-and-mortar, will now be required to charge sales tax on everything they sell. When it comes to things like software, you get charged based on your domicile, not where you accept the download."
So... no Montana road trip for me
"Remember the email I sent out in late June regarding the Supreme Court ruling on sales tax nexus? The bottom line is sales tax will now be charged on every product in every state, regardless of where you buy it from. This even applies to software that is downloaded and not necessarily tangible. The states have been hurting for revenue for a long time because of places like Amazon, so this ruling levels the playing field so that all businesses, whether they be Internet retailers or traditional brick-and-mortar, will now be required to charge sales tax on everything they sell. When it comes to things like software, you get charged based on your domicile, not where you accept the download."
So... no Montana road trip for me
Tax till you die! TAX TAX TAX!!!Following up after talking to my CPA in case anyone else is interested...
"Remember the email I sent out in late June regarding the Supreme Court ruling on sales tax nexus? The bottom line is sales tax will now be charged on every product in every state, regardless of where you buy it from. This even applies to software that is downloaded and not necessarily tangible. The states have been hurting for revenue for a long time because of places like Amazon, so this ruling levels the playing field so that all businesses, whether they be Internet retailers or traditional brick-and-mortar, will now be required to charge sales tax on everything they sell. When it comes to things like software, you get charged based on your domicile, not where you accept the download."
So... no Montana road trip for me
Perry
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Yep, at some point it will end up being discounted because for some of us who actually enjoy driving (P3D) and don't drive a lot on highways it's just not worth it. But at a much lower price, why not (just for summon). So it would make sense to have a sale and get at least some money out of people like me rather than none.
But if not then I will never miss it since the value proposition is very low for me.
Well, I ended up caving. We have EAP on our X but did not get on 3 as I figured my daily commute it short. However, for me it just didn’t feel like a Tesla without getting autopilot, and the trial honestly convinced me since I got to use it a few weeks on our 3. I still think price for me is too high and I’d be ok with just basic autopilot 1.0 functionality but I guess their trials work on a small few suckers like me. It just completes the car for me!
Ya. $5 a mile!
No one will use it if it’s too expensive. And if it’s too cheap Tesla is better off missing out on those like you and capturing the 2 out of 10 suckers like me and terthen
M109Rider
Active Member
So you’ll clearly never own EAP, because self driving technology like this, this early in the game, is never likely going to be $1,000
But its nice you shared that you still don’t want it.
I think by calling this a cash grab, maybe you don’t understand what a business is.
Tesla made EAP putting millions into the technology, they now want to sell that to make a profit.
This is called “A Business”....
A “cash grab” is usually referrenced for things like the government taking more cash from us tax payers with no return.
Eno Deb
Active Member
I honestly don't feel tempted at all at this price. The trial confirmed to me that Autopilot is barely more than the driver assistance packages (active lane keeping and adaptive cruise control) that other manufacturers offer for half the price. If they had announced some *significant* new features that will come with software release 9 I'd probably have bitten at the reduced price, but lane change suggestions isn't something I'm terribly interested in ...
Just asking.... how many other manufacturers offer 'active lane keeping' assistance - and I don't mean the primitive alarms or buzzers to let you know you've crossed a line? I mean automatically steering to keep you in a lane.
Eno Deb
Active Member
There are quite a few:
https://www.cars.com/articles/which-cars-have-self-driving-features-for-2018-1420699785509/
They vary in quality of course.
Cool. Now has anyone tested the other systems to see how close or better they are compared to Tesla’s auto pilot?
I know Cadillac supercruise is a good one. Sometimes said to be better. But has anyone else caught up yet?
CrazyCoconut
Member
EAP in Model 3 is still the best:
Not all level 2 driver assists are equal, IIHS finds after testing
Anyways, I caved as well after a coworker let me drive his 3 with EAP on the road I commute on. After that, I had my IDA add it to the car before delivery.
Eno Deb
Active Member
I have driven a friend's Audi A4 which has their traffic jam assist. At least in bumper-to-bumper traffic it's just as good as Autopilot IMO.
