theothertom
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The article is dated Dec 2019. Tesla has added a lot of chargers since that time.According to the article, there are 50 vehicles in lines and 40 chargers.
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The article is dated Dec 2019. Tesla has added a lot of chargers since that time.According to the article, there are 50 vehicles in lines and 40 chargers.
Note that that was 2019.According to the article, there are 50 vehicles in lines and 40 chargers.
That means that 10 vehicles have to wait 2 vehicles to charge while 40 vehicles only have to wait for 1 vehicle to charge.
Rivian was supposed to be “the next Tesla” with the biggest IPO of the year.Why wouldn't Ford deliver more BEVs than Rivian?
The F150 Lighting is going to sell like hotcakes, and Ford can leverage revenue from ICE Trucks/SUV's to fund EV development.
Rivians goal isn't to sell a LOT of EV's like Tesla's goal is.
Exactly.How much time are we talking about, though? A 40 stall site should be turning a vehicle over once per minute if the average charging session is 40 minutes. Many charging sessions are shorter than that (my average is <20 minutes), so I would would expect an even faster turnover rate.
Rivian was supposed to be “the next Tesla” with the biggest IPO of the year.
It’s all hype.
Even if Rivian somehow survives, it’s only going to be a minor player.
Haven't they said that they are planning to have 10% of the EV market by 2030?That's the hype machine for you, but I haven't seen anything from Rivian that suggests they plan on trying to be within the top 3 EV providers.
“We’re absolutely making progress. The plant is starting to ramp nicely,” Scaringe said, later noting that Rivian has the brand position to build out a portfolio that would allow the company to “work toward building a position of 10% market share within the EV space.”
Exactly.
…and it’s not as if most people never had to wait at a gas station before
Haven't they said that they are planning to have 10% of the EV market by 2030?
Rivian aims to take 10% share of the EV market by 2030
At the 2022 Wolfe Research Virtual Global Auto, Auto Tech, and Mobility Conference, RJ Scaringe stated that Rivian Automotive wants to capture a 10% stake in the EV market by 2030. Rivian may still be dealing with the ongoing chip shortage, but the Rivian CEO believes that the company is still...www.teslarati.com
And wouldn't you think that the EV market will be 80+% of the vehicle market by 2030?
You forgot GM, who is build three battery plants.That's the hype machine for you, but I haven't seen anything from Rivian that suggests they plan on trying to be within the top 3 EV providers.
I do see the potential for them to be within the top 5 in North America.
There are a lot of missing in action companies like Toyota, Subaru, Honda, Mazda, etc.
The major players I see are Tesla, Hyundai, Ford, and VW (which includes Audi/Porsche)
Do you realize that a huge part of the US has very low population density?On road trips with a Diesel van I've noticed waiting happens quite a bit.
Sometimes its because of broken pumps
Sometimes its because its the only good gas station in the area
Sometimes its because you don't want to wait, but you end up costing yourself 10 minutes of driving around
Sometimes its because people are inconsiderate and spend a bunch of time in the store buying things before bothering to pump their gas.
Sometimes its because people pay cash so they have to go into the store to pay for it
Sometimes its because the side you need is blocked, and trying to get around would be a huge hassle.
To me a minimally viable EA/Supercharger station would have
20+ Stalls with a few pull throughs
Clean Restroom within a short walk
Vending Machine for Water or some kind of Amazon Go like store.
Cameras for security
Maybe 7/11 should get on board with EV charging.
They already have, just need a LOT more of them.Maybe 7/11 should get on board with EV charging.
I was referring to averages for well traveled routes.Do you realize that a huge part of the US has very low population density?
I doubt that a charging station in Wyoming needs 20+ chargers.
GM has issues executing.You forgot GM, who is build three battery plants.
Those older Signet units are limited to 350A, so technically unit 02 is functioning as expected.Today made a trip down to Georgia to get Del Taco (There aren't any in Tennessee), and stopped at the EA station just outside of Chattanooga, (Collegedale, TN);
They've got an 8 stall set-up, which somewhat makes sense since the ID4 is made down the street at the Chattanooga - VW USA factory.
Unfortunately 01 - 350kw unit, is completely out of service, and 02 only fed my vehicle 339 amps,instead of the max of 500.(I didn't check to see if it was limited to 350 amps, so in this case getting 339 of 350, might not be too bad) (132kw max output), Station 03 which is allegedly the other 350kw unit, was in use when I arrived, and they disconnected right before I left.
150kw station 02, maxed at 339A and 127kw via SMT, delivered 20.00 kwh according to EA, cost $2.90; 14.5c/kwh.
Yeah, I realized that was a possibility after I hit 'post'.Those older Signet units are limited to 350A, so technically unit 02 is functioning as expected.
0-60 kW | 60-100 kW | 100-150 kW |
$0.23/min | $0.44/min | $0.73/min |