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Elon: FSD Beta tweets
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Works to perfection, legal, and allows your Tesla to perform like GM's Supercruise (Which does not require hands on wheel).
willow_hiller
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Timelines and Safety Scores for 10.69.2.1 and 10.69.3:
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Yeah not really a surprise at all. Expected given the lackluster performance.
Maybe @Daniel in SD will get lucky! Or he will claim the bet does not apply to revisions and back out, we will see.
Obviously won’t matter for ULTs either way. Lost cause until they get bold. It’s easy if you go fast!
I am surprised by the expansion, but he doesn’t say when that will happen. He is only saying it won’t be on 10.69.2. Could be a while. Hopefully no one will get hit on a ULT. Risks are increasing! (I don’t see a factor of two (or whatever it would be) increase in safety so far on the move from 10.12, though presumably they know it is somehow?)
I wonder how much of the fleet 80+ is?
Maybe @Daniel in SD will get lucky! Or he will claim the bet does not apply to revisions and back out, we will see.
Obviously won’t matter for ULTs either way. Lost cause until they get bold. It’s easy if you go fast!
I am surprised by the expansion, but he doesn’t say when that will happen. He is only saying it won’t be on 10.69.2. Could be a while. Hopefully no one will get hit on a ULT. Risks are increasing! (I don’t see a factor of two (or whatever it would be) increase in safety so far on the move from 10.12, though presumably they know it is somehow?)
I wonder how much of the fleet 80+ is?
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Oh wow, that's huge! If they release to 80+ that's probably half of all FSD users. That almost constitutes "wide release" imo.
Good new vehicles nowadays have cameras monitoring your eyeballs and throwing warnings if it detects your focus straying from the road, this type of stuff will likely be mandated soon.
They may have a limit on total number they allow for this release like they did with the last one or they may prevent those on higher software versions from downgrading like they did previously. No one knows.
10.69.1 moved up a branch to 2022.20. Its possible 69.2.1 or 69.3 might move to 24. Since it's a smaller fsd revision, i wouldn't be surprised if they can put more effort into branch merging
It would have to be .28 I would think since they are pushing cars from .24 to .28 quickly. There were some bugs in .24, especially the whistle sound when parked.
DanCar
Active Member
Maybe we should start a poll to see how many people change their mind about the lawsuit once they receive FSD. I have a suspicion I might. Probably Elon could have avoided the mess releasing wider much earlier.
It wasn't ready. It still really isn't. The safety score/strike out is to create stakes because it will do some crazy *sugar*. There will be a major increase of accidents if this version becomes wide release without changes.
Change your mind? Maybe. Change your mind to no longer favor a lawsuit? I doubt it. If anything, after getting into FSD Beta back at v10.5 I am MORE in favor of asking/suing Tesla to get my $2000 back.
Maybe this has been asked, but would you accept a small % of your money back and have all FSD removed and only AP? That's a more likely outcome of a class action suit than a full refund.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Is it wide if you can lose access after 5 strikes? I think actual wide release means just some sort of process where use can continue (though perhaps an arduous one).
I'll bet they never get rid of 5 strikes.
You will just get "reset" on the next release, which at one point was the plan with strikes.
mtndrew1
Active Member
My ideal situation would be to keep my original EAP features on the single-stack software (should it ever materialize) and have my money back for FSD. The single stack software would make it plausible that smart summon, autopark, and NoA become genuinely useful features.
After a year in the beta program I’m more convinced than ever that FSD will remain a party trick for a very long time to come and perhaps indefinitely.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
I hope they don’t, too. But I don’t think that qualifies as wide release personally. But I guess we will see how people react to striking out.
They would likely take everything if you opted in and then you would have to buy the EAP package.
The same way they do now. "It's not fair I'm banned from something I paid for", except likely to a lessor degree if they maintained that features would be restored on the next release.
They will absolutely have some sort of strike system and punishment. They have to...maybe it could be reduced for the day or the drive, but I doubt it.
mtndrew1
Active Member
I purchased the EAP package + FSD. I would like to revert to EAP and get my money back. Alternatively they can make FSD useful, I’ll take either option.
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