HW4 side cameras have slightly wider field of view which helps at T intersections, and they have much higher resolution and color, which helps with estimating distant vehicle speeds. The speed increase of the HW4 computer will also help with making faster decisions, I’ve found my HW3 computer reacting slower than me sometimes (not always, of course). It’ll be a worthy upgrade whenever FSDb gets released for it.
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Elon: One-time FSD transfers for purchases in Q3
- Thread starter blkswn
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Why would you think they would add additional cameras to Highland and not CT? (Outside of the front parking camera) We've seen the creative way they designed the CT to provide the same camera views as current cars. It's just unlikely we get this new camera placement so many are confident in, despite 0 rumors indicating them coming.
The repeater camera still doesn't see forward enough for T intersections It's still looking back instead of side,
The B pillar camera has always been the camera for the intersection view, but it's still too far back. The higher resolution absolutely helps, though.
I am currently in the process of trading my wife's FSD enabled vehicle for a new order. I sent the sales team a note asking how the transfer works and they replied that I needed to confirm that I wanted the trade-in quote to be evaluated without FSD value (i.e. I'm not giving them a vehicle back with FSD). I assume they're going to rip my eyes out in valuation thusly.
The pictures were taken from 2 different parking spots (just count 2 and 1) by mistake. DirtyTesla later corrected it. They are actually about the same angle in both HW3 and HW4.
I don’t know why Tesla didn’t just use the side repeater location for both a backwards facing camera and a side/front facing one. Maybe they thought the lower location would get obscured? But the B pillar location isn’t great either.
Eno Deb
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Here's an interesting tidbit: apparently Tesla has very recently started delivering Model Y pre-wired for the new radar (but without the radar module itself) and a different version of the FSD computer:
No doubt that will make recent buyers before that change happy. What a mess.
And limiting the FSD transfer to Q3 is a d*ck move. Obviously they only do this as a demand lever for the upcoming quarter (which is estimated to be weaker). On the earnings call Musk sounded like he was doing existing owners who paid thousands for a feature that was never delivered a favor ("one-time amnesty") ...
Then WHY are there ports for 3 more cameras? EM says no part is better than a part Also, when EM first introduced HW3 in early 2019, he said it was designed in house and it had full redundancy
The side pillar cameras point at 90 degrees. The ones on the fenders point backwards (something one of his engineers asked EM WHY? but it was too late)
The new config is supposed to have 2 cameras in windshield, 1 in the nose and 2 new ones forward facing
There isn't on the Model Y, it has a different version of HW4, but those cameras are used on the Semi. The same board in the S/X is allegedly used in the CT/Semi. The CT has 1 additional camera on the front bumper, the cameras didn't move position, same with the Highland, allegedly.
HW3 had redundancy, but FSD required more compute power and Tesla used the redundancy to meet those requirements a year or so ago.