Elon tweet re: lack of instrument cluster

[McRat]

HUDs are OK as long as you can turn them off.

They are neat toys but can irritate the crap out of you after awhile. I'd rather have an uncluttered view of the road, so they tend to stay off.

I'd never pay extra for one. Sadly some cars come with them as base level equipment.

 

[WarpedOne]

The dashboard is supposed to be final with that single screen.
Now where will go all those mandated by law control and indicator lights?

My guess is the steering wheel will have fixed center similar to C5 steering wheel with control lights (simple leds).

 

[peigenmann]

No steering wheel. Sidesticks. Makes sense, one model globally. Everything lined up in the center. Space for passengers while in auto mode. It's drive by wire anyways... Think about it.

 

[HankLloydRight]

I doubt this would ever happen, but see that thin black strip that runs across the entire dashboard -- about 1" high?

I could see that as an information strip with things like speed, range, energy usage, audio and A/C settings, clock and temp, etc. Or even news headlines or stock quotes ticker-style. Or you can just turn it off completely, or set it to any trim color you want.

Yeah, I know, very expensive and different. But I think it would be really cool in addition to a HUD for the driver.

But no HUD and no instrument cluster? I think that's a big mistake. We shall see.

 

[tga]

No steering wheel. Sidesticks.

Repeat after me - "No weirdmobiles!"

 

[Snow Drift]

I need to follow Elon's tweets more closely! Great info.

 

[lolachampcar]

The OP wasted my time. I'll not fall for that again.

 

[Fallenone]

HUD technology has been around for nearly 40 years in one form or another. Having a HUD unit that could be inserted on either the left or right side would greatly reduce cost and increase part commonality between LHD and RHD (UK/Japan/AUS etc.) versions of the car.

Wow! This is a great point!

 

[Bimbels]

It's used in military aircraft, spaceships....

 

[souslik]

No steering wheel. Sidesticks. Makes sense, one model globally. Everything lined up in the center. Space for passengers while in auto mode. It's drive by wire anyways... Think about it.

Why stop there? What about the old school accelerator pedal? Two words: Thrust lever!

 

[LargeHamCollider]

Could there be a screen on the steering wheel/controls themselves?

 

[peigenmann]

Check Mercedes F200 concept from the 90s. Sidesticks, no pedals, controllable from driver and passenger seat and worked well according to Mercedes. Ahead of its time though...

 

[bpk6]

If Tesla keeps the elongated steering wheel form factor, that is indicative of a pending HUD. A traditional steering wheel would protrude up into the HUD viewing area; hence the elongated (flat) steering wheel of the prototype cars.

 

[Saghost]

Yes, I absolutely agree. The drivers at the event indicated that the interior design was intentional and deliberate.

The key pieces of information that are currently on the Model S driver screen (Speed, Cruise Control indicator, Autopilot Indicator, Drive Mode) are found on the main screen in the Model 3, so having this information on some sort of additional display would be redundant.

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It seems like most of the things you can select on the S center screen are there, with a couple glaring exceptions. I don't see any indication of a way to access the rear view camera, and even more odd, I don't see anything on the energy usage or power, or a button that might lead to them.
Walter

 

[yesup]

The dashboard is supposed to be final with that single screen.
Now where will go all those mandated by law control and indicator lights?

Nothing is mandated by law, as long as it is visible to the driver. So they can all be in the main centre screen and that would be good enough.

 

[ArtC]

It's used in military aircraft, spaceships....

And Corvettes... since 2000.

 

[yesup]

A traditional steering wheel would protrude up into the HUD viewing area; hence the elongated (flat) steering wheel of the prototype cars.

No, not really. All current cars with HUDs have normal circular steering wheels with no problems.

 

[omarsultan]

Y
The key pieces of information that are currently on the Model S driver screen (Speed, Cruise Control indicator, Autopilot Indicator, Drive Mode) are found on the main screen in the Model 3, so having this information on some sort of additional display would be redundant.

Still missing the central portion of the AP UI and no place to show turn-by-turn directions, so it seems there needs to be something else.

 

[bpk6]

No, not really. All current cars with HUDs have normal circular steering wheels with no problems.

Yes, you are correct. There are currently cars with HUD with traditional steering wheels.

 

[Bimbels]

Yes, you are correct. There are currently cars with HUD with traditional steering wheels.

Elon referenced the steering wheel in the drawing he posted on Twitter yesterday. He said it was a "cool one" (replying to someone asking why the test ride cars had such ugly steering wheels. It is open at the top...perfect for HUD.