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Quite easy to find out about Ben Smith, instead of making up stuff. Well known former editor-in-chief of Buzzfeed. Worked for Politico & NYT.So this Ben guy is a media editor, probably basically PR,
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Quite easy to find out about Ben Smith, instead of making up stuff. Well known former editor-in-chief of Buzzfeed. Worked for Politico & NYT.So this Ben guy is a media editor, probably basically PR,
One thing I don't like about Elon's response is that he is assuming that there's some connection between SBF and the reporter. I don't know if there is or isn't, but that isn't the only possible explanation for the reporting; could also be just a rush to report and not checking facts (wouldn't be the first time that happened). Assuming that there must be some nefarious connection between the two reminds me of the whole "just asking questions" thing and how that can go down some rabbit holes, and really isn't an argument in good faith.
Note: I'm not making a statement as to whether the reporting is correct or not, just making a note about Elon's response.
I don't know if there is or isn't, but that isn't the only possible explanation for the reporting; could also be just a rush to report and not checking facts (wouldn't be the first time that happened). Assuming that there must be some nefarious connection between the two reminds me of the whole "just asking questions" thing and how that can go down some rabbit holes, and really isn't an argument in good faith.
Decades of people writing fake news about Tesla will do that to a man. Also there are plenty of fake news attacking him even more so today so he feels like they must have been bought by someone.There are multiple possibilities - but Elon (with the help of Omar) is saying its all a planned thing to take on Elon for attacking SBM ... Bizarre.
IMO ... Semaphor, like Buzzfeed before, is basically an "investigative" journalism site. They search all this stuff and write up stories. That is their primary objective .... and way of making money. Both Elon & SBM are in the news .... so obviously they found some link and reported, esp. because Elon has tweeted about SBM quite a bit.
Seriously, Elon seems to be conspiracy minded (all the time). The fact that the entire Twitter seems to be against him makes further reinforces this (apart from continuous critical Tesla articles in the media).
Love the words “harping” and “left”.... great way to promote thoughtful discussion.
Congratulations the defense doesn’t understand nuance. Case closed.
While it’s true elon could have handled it better and was off his meds to suggest SBF “owned” this reporter somehow, it does look like she made a pretty classic and serious mistake by looking at various …let’s call them documents …. That seemed to strongly suggest something but by themselves werent fleshed out and reliable enough to be sole basis of a story.There are multiple possibilities - but Elon (with the help of Omar) is saying its all a planned thing to take on Elon for attacking SBM ... Bizarre.
IMO ... Semaphor, like Buzzfeed before, is basically an "investigative" journalism site. They search all this stuff and write up stories. That is their primary objective .... and way of making money. Both Elon & SBM are in the news .... so obviously they found some link and reported, esp. because Elon has tweeted about SBM quite a bit.
Seriously, Elon seems to be conspiracy minded (all the time). The fact that the entire Twitter seems to be against him makes further reinforces this (apart from continuous critical Tesla articles in the media).
It seems quite possible that it is a plot by SBF to embarrass Elon. Where else would she have gotten those texts? And it shows that Elon was hiding texts from the court (something he was already caught doing earlier.)While it’s true elon could have handled it better and was off his meds to suggest SBF “owned” this reporter somehow, it does look like she made a pretty classic and serious mistake by looking at various …let’s call them documents …. That seemed to strongly suggest something but by themselves werent fleshed out and reliable enough to be sole basis of a story.
She needed actual humans with direct knowledge of what was actually going on to explain things to her.
Without that, no matter how sexy, you don’t run with it.
Cue the hysteria.
Trade price was to show that that their wasn’t any correlation between Twitter reinstatements and the Tesla share price that some have forecasted would dump. It’s up 10% in two days.Pretty sure everyone here knows the stock price at any given time.
He could say he was Trump’s long lost son from another mother.Is the implication here that there is nothing that Elon could do or say to damage the brand?
The last thing sure? I guess I’d buy Elon losing track. But he’s fjatlycsaying it isn’t true and sounds sure of himself.It seems quite possible that it is a plot by SBF to embarrass Elon. Where else would she have gotten those texts? And it shows that Elon was hiding texts from the court (something he was already caught doing earlier.)
Also possible that Elon didn’t actually keep track of who all the investors are. $100 million is chump change.
Yeah, I don’t think it’s intentional on the part of the reporter.The last thing sure? I guess I’d buy Elon losing track. But he’s fjatlycsaying it isn’t true and sounds sure of himself.
….plot though? Yeah if you consider plot to be solely on SBF’s part, feeding stuff to the reporter. He would.
The reporter plotting to “go after” Elon with an intentionally inaccurate report, though….no, more likely just a dumb mistake to trust the info.
Everyone is going after Elon with any kind of reports because he's hot right now. Write trash about him and it sells. Is the reporter purposely digging dirt on Elon? Yes most likely, as well as everyone else scrambling to do right now.The last thing sure? I guess I’d buy Elon losing track. But he’s fjatlycsaying it isn’t true and sounds sure of himself.
….plot though? Yeah if you consider plot to be solely on SBF’s part, feeding stuff to the reporter. He would.
The reporter plotting to “go after” Elon with an intentionally inaccurate report, though….no, more likely just a dumb mistake to trust the info.
Jordan Belfort gets by making speeches and stuff too. Seems to be a common theme with fraudsters.Damn how is SBF not on trial but getting paid for making a speech?
Tom Bradey is being more investigated right now than SBF...lol. That $$$ sure goes along way.Jordan Belfort gets by making speeches and stuff too. Seems to be a common theme with fraudsters.
It took 2+ years to charge Elizabeth Holmes and she’s still not in jail. Patience.Damn how is SBF not on trial but getting paid for making a speech?