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Elon & Twitter
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ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Whoever is producing it is working overtime!
JRP3
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Suddenly today I'm seeing a lot of "Promoted" tweets, which are ads by companies. They get blocked. I'm also having to block more and more people who have shown up in my feed since the takeover. My Twitter experience has certainly gone downhill fast.
The banning of right-leaning voices has been going on for years (from what I understand from the time of twitter's founding). Yet virtually no far-left ones have, even when actively threatening other users and promoting violence. Concerning left-leaning voices being reinstated, Kathy Griffin comes to mind. Some of the far-left that have been using Twitter to promote and coordinate violent attacks are reportedly being silenced.
TSLA ended the day in the green, one of the few tech stocks to do so today (the Nasdaq was down -1.58%). AAPL was down even more: -2.63%. So if there is any causality it looks like it hurt Apple, not Tesla.
As an AAPL shareholder, yes, though I think it's possibly a bit low.
mach-edriver
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Given the maturity and probity of Musk, we're probably hours away from him calling Tim Cook a pedo.
TSLA was defying the drop experienced by the broader indexes until about 9:45 PT, when it started to quickly descend as the markets continued to drop. The below tweet was published at 9:45 PT, and Elon then went on an anti-Apple rant for the next, what, several hours?
Can I say with certainty that the Apple drama caused the drop? No. Is it another distraction? Absolutely.
In my opinion, Elon is making himself out to be a huge key man risk with institutionals. It is hurting the stock. Just my 0.02.
That is why Elon needs to cur a deal with Apple, or failing that cut a deal with Google to ensure Twitter remains available in at least one apps store.
I have a long standing wish that Tesla would develop a phone, mostly because I expect a phone to last 10 years, and be just as responsive after 10 years as it was on day 1. Also I don't like the Apple UI, and I don't like bloatware on Android,
However, there is very little chance that a good enough phone can be done quickly, it is best done as a "stealth" project and revealed when it is ready.
The fight with Apple is the wrong reason do do a phone, and probably the wrong time.
As to what the disruptive advantage could be against Apple, you have already listed it. A very "open ecosystem" with low App-store fees.
An open and flexible system actually makes using the phone harder for most users. The locked in ecosystem streamlines a lot of things, and removes the need for a lot of decisions.
So where would you need a robust open flexible phone that lasts 10 years? Mars is one place. I highly doubt that the Apple ecosystem would be supported on Mars.
bkp_duke
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Had nothing to do with this, and everything to do with St. Louis Fed Pres Bullard saying more rate increases are likely (he's a rate hawk):
Fed’s Bullard Says Markets Underestimating Chances of Higher Rates
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard said financial markets are underestimating the chances that policymakers will need to be more aggressive next year in raising interest rates to curb inflation.
www.bloomberg.com
The timing was spot on for the drop in TSLA and other growth stocks which had done reasonably well during the day.
bkp_duke
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LoL
So . . . first it is that you are not seeing ads . . . because the advertisers are leaving.
Then . . . when you do see ads . . . you are blocking all of them.
ElectricIAC
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Clearly you don’t have a Tesla with MCU1.
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
I don't.
I dislike "bloatware" in general, but I agree users also want new features.
Phone customers are very accepting of the need to throw their phone away every 2-3 years and buy a new one.
I've had to "throw away" my $1500 center computer plus a $500 radio module after 4 years due to various bloatware and poor hardware decisions (flash size)... ON A CAR!
I'd be very happy if Elon tries to make his own phone/mobile platform. More competition means more choices for everyone and probably lower prices. Like you say, open means less stable honestly and things will not work as good since they have to make it open and hard to test anything really open.
That said, I don't think Tesla has ever been really open right? They are letting people use their charging plug standard now, but that's after they refused to let anyone else use it for a very long time (why you never see anyone make a Tesla EVSE charger). At least from what I saw on that Inside EVs podcast.
I don't think Tesla has anything open about their Powerwalls neither where I can just buy one and configure everything myself without Tesla anything. From reading here, I don't think folks can even buy used ones and get them working without Tesla's "ok".
I think the whole thing about this businesses avoiding Twitter is that companies simply just don't want/care to get political. It divides people and alienates people all for what? 50% don't agree with the other 50%. No one will win this argument and it's just bad for their business/company. I feel like it's all just to continue to get people against each other again. See the same stuff posted here back and forth.
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