Enhanced autopilot features now FSD-only?

[Eno Deb]

The upgrade option in MyTesla has appeared and disappeared countless times over the last couple years. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Well, now it's back in my account ... for $3k. The checkout is disabled though.

 

[MP3Mike]

$3K is the only fair price for it.

So you don't think there should be a post purchase penalty at all? I think 3.5k or 4k would be reasonable.

 

[ucmndd]

So you don't think there should be a post purchase penalty at all? I think 3.5k or 4k would be reasonable.

I could see them offering at $3k for a “limited time promotion” to milk a few more suckers.

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

So you don't think there should be a post purchase penalty at all? I think 3.5k or 4k would be reasonable.

Correction. $3K -> $4K is the only fair price range for it.

I also had to fix it because in another thread I said the $3k to $4K range.

I could at least try to be consistent.

Plus $500 to $1K for an "Install charge" is perfectly reasonable.

I wonder if they'll let me keep the HW2.5 computer? what are they going to do with them?

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

I could see them offering at $3k for a “limited time promotion” to milk a few more suckers.

Suckers?

$3K is a bargain for a really weird bizarre experience.

I have no idea what it's going to be like to supervise FSD on city streets.

Probably like it is with NoA, but 100x times that. As in the "Why are you doing that???" parts of it.

 

[GeoX750]

I could see them offering at $3k for a “limited time promotion” to milk a few more suckers.

At least there are tangible features that you can get by paying for FSD, even if they are far from actually being FSD.

My account is still showing $5K to upgrade. Stopping at lights and signs is not worth $5K to me.

$3K, maybe ?

 

[ucmndd]

At least there are tangible features that you can get by paying for FSD, even if they are far from actually being FSD.

I guess that’s one way to deliver FSD.

My account is still showing $5K to upgrade. Stopping at lights and signs is not worth $5K to me.

$3K, maybe ?

EAP at $5k certainly seems like the value sweet spot for now.

 

[Tzaloudek]

My account shows $3k to upgrade to FSD now. It went down from $5k but the checkout button is greyed out. Seems like anyone with EAP will have an option to upgrade to FSD at $3k within the next few days unless Elon changes his mind.

Is there legitimate reason to believe the $3k upgrade to FSD would be a limited time offer?

 

[xav-]

What do we think the odds are that they’ll let existing owners buy AP for $3k, since we didn’t have the option at purchase? I’d be willing to pay that for TACC.

Chances are very high in my opinion.

 

[Tzaloudek]

Chances are very high in my opinion.

Have you checked the upgrade options in your account? They already updated the FSD price for those with EAP.

 

[MP3Mike]

What do we think the odds are that they’ll let existing owners buy AP for $3k, since we didn’t have the option at purchase? I’d be willing to pay that for TACC.

I would expect that they might do a AP trial and offer it for $3,500 if you purchase before the end. (They pretty much always apply a $500 penalty for buying after the fact.)

 

[jsvinda]

So I waited and with the latest price drop I am now ready to take the plunge. Should I buy the AP for $3000 or pass?

 

[ucmndd]

So I waited and with the latest price drop I am now ready to take the plunge. Should I buy the AP for $3000 or pass?

I think $3k for auto steer and TACC is a decent value. Depends a lot on how/where you drive though.

 

[Perry]

EAP did not reduce to $3000. It’s the vanilla AP that’s 3k. EAP is gone (grandfathered).

I have a feeling that eventually vanilla AP will end up being included into the basic configuration since most cars today have lane assist standard and they will have to compete with that. The advanced features of EAP will be rolled into FSD and EAP will go away entirely leaving just one premium self driving package to buy. It's too complicated as is today.

 

[dave999z]

Does the $3k for FSD offer (for those who previously purchased only EAP) include the HW3 upgrade?

And where do you go to see this in your account?

 

[OCR1]

Does the $3k for FSD offer (for those who previously purchased only EAP) include the HW3 upgrade?

I asked the same question earlier and never got a response because I don’t think anyone really knows. Previously FSD was to include any necessary hardware upgrades to make it work. But what if FSD came out and worked fine on the existing hardware? I don’t think it was ever clear what Tesla was promising with the FSD option, and it appears it has not become any clearer with today’s price updates.

 

[NavyGator]

So I waited and with the latest price drop I am now ready to take the plunge. Should I buy the AP for $3000 or pass?

Once you've used active cruise control you'll realize how bad regular CC really was and you will never want to go back (no longer have to constantly break/resume or adjust speed for drivers who get in front of you and are slightly off your speed); it takes the burden off the driver in stop & go traffic too. As for autosteer - it makes driving on highways/roadtrips much less stressful esp. when coupled with TACC...takes a bit of feel to learn how to anchor your arm on either arm rest (door or center console) in order to keep "light pressure" on the steering wheel without even thinking about it -- but once you get the knack of it, it's really awesome and a huge differentiator for Tesla owners...

 

[OCR1]

Once you've used active cruise control you'll realize how bad regular CC really was and you will never want to go back (no longer have to constantly break/resume or adjust speed for drivers who get in front of you and are slightly off your speed); it takes the burden off the driver in stop & go traffic too. As for autosteer - it makes driving on highways/roadtrips much less stressful esp. when coupled with TACC...takes a bit of feel to learn how to anchor your arm on either arm rest (door or center console) in order to keep "light pressure" on the steering wheel without even thinking about it -- but once you get the knack of it, it's really awesome and a huge differentiator for Tesla owners...

Are you talking about cruise control from the previous decade? Take a look at a Toyota Corolla. Even on the cheapest model standard features include pre-collision system with pedestrian detection, lane departure alert with steering assist, and dynamic radar cruise control. And all of these features are standard on an $18,700 MSRP car. This is why I think it’s nonsense for Tesla to charge $3K for these features. They have essentially stripped out a very basic feature offered in virtually all modern cars for little to no money and are charging $3K for it to make up for the $35K base price they really would prefer not to sell the car for.

 

[Knightshade]

Does the $3k for FSD offer (for those who previously purchased only EAP) include the HW3 upgrade?

Yes it does

I asked the same question earlier and never got a response because I don’t think anyone really knows. Previously FSD was to include any necessary hardware upgrades to make it work. But what if FSD came out and worked fine on the existing hardware? I don’t think it was ever clear what Tesla was promising with the FSD option, and it appears it has not become any clearer with today’s price updates.

FSD (the new coming soon stuff, and anything else significantly more advanced that "now old" EAP) requires HW3.

It's why there is a HW3 in the first place.

 

[Knightshade]

Are you talking about cruise control from the previous decade? Take a look at a Toyota Corolla. Even on the cheapest model standard features include pre-collision system with pedestrian detection, lane departure alert with steering assist, and dynamic radar cruise control. And all of these features are standard on an $18,700 MSRP car.

And work like crap compared to Tesla.

I had a loaner lexus last year and it followed too far (even at nearest follow) so was constantly being cut off... and below 30 mph it simply turns off.

And it didn't auto steer at all. It'll beep at you if you're drifting out of a lane but won't do crap to correct that.