EV running costs starting to look expensive?
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We love our MY and do not regret our decision. Home charging made it even more enjoyable. Not having to visit a diesel pump or think about servicing each year - although Tesla recommends an annual check which we’ll do - and the performance is excellent for a £60k car."driving" maybe, sorry to hear thatbut I think you will have lower service costs, and strong residual, to look forward too.
I think crash survivability better in MY too. Hopefully you won't need that
It’s making us change our home setup regarding gas usage by removing central heating and the gas rings. We’re moving to solar, battery and heat pumps.
What was your overall average mpg? That's what really matters in this comparison. I've never achieved anything over about 36 mpg average and with nothing remotely close to the performance of a Tesla. That's mixed driving, but mostly rural and not a huge amount of motorway.
So to add to the comments about tyre wear... not sure if it's an M3P or LR (probably not SR given the quoted usage) but I bought a 2yo used car in 2015 from a main dealer, it had about 15K miles, and the front tyres were shot, particularly on the nearside edge. I got them replaced before I bought. The cheapo tyres they put on lasted me over 30K miles. I also had them check the alignment, which was fine.
Previous owner was a female, who probably liked to take roundabouts fast and was probably heavy on the brakes. My M3LR has 25K miles and I've used up at most 4mm of tread on any single tyre. Will comfortably exceed 30K, might reach 40K.
Previous owner was a female, who probably liked to take roundabouts fast and was probably heavy on the brakes. My M3LR has 25K miles and I've used up at most 4mm of tread on any single tyre. Will comfortably exceed 30K, might reach 40K.
I guess if we are avert global warming, we should be dumping personal transport entirely and have a nationwide fleet of electric buses and trains that are frequent and reliable. …and dare I say, some robotaxi’s…
However, in the real world I’m afraid we’re spoilt and I speak from experience. For my sins, I haven’t been on a bus since 1969 but I did go to London by train once in 2002 and that was the first time on a train since 1966.
However, in the real world I’m afraid we’re spoilt and I speak from experience. For my sins, I haven’t been on a bus since 1969 but I did go to London by train once in 2002 and that was the first time on a train since 1966.
WannabeOwner
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You can do what you like provided it is net-zero
Don't build a house from bricks / concrete / steel today ... but once those industries have figured out a way to be net zero we can start using them again.
I'm sure I didn't over simplify anything there. Definitely sure ...
Busses yes, it's affordable to electrify them and they are fundamentally convenient. As far as I can tell rail is just a money pit, expensive for the country to electrify and ruinously expensive for people using them. Add to that the huge carbon cost of building new rail like HS2 and Cross Rail (all justified assuming we would be driving petrol cars for the next 100 years) and it frankly does stack up. Scrap the lot, turn the tracks into roads for autonomous vehicles and busses to leave cities.
Rooster6655
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In a p- on 18s I got about 13k on the tyres but that was on the rear and then probably 16k on the front, it does depend on how you drive the car.
The cost for 4 tyres PS4 non acoustic from Costco was £500 fitted
Not helped by the fact the electricity companies have been ripping them off for years. I had a job 7yrs ago fitting energy meters to SouthWest rolling stock (can’t remember which class). They reckoned a saving on electricity bills of several million per quarter because they’d never had a means to check the bills before that.
This is excessive. With apps such as Bonnet, even rapid charging at 50/75 kW costs just 25p per kWh.
Lord Farquad
2021 SR+ MIC LFP
Jason71
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Glad I am not the only one who had to replace rears at 13K. I don't drive it like I stole it either. I was just doing a lot of miles on twisty Welsh A roads at the time and they seemed to just eat the rears. Fronts lasted 22K but Covid changed my driving patterns long before that so not a straight comparison.
Jason71
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Is it down hill by any chance? what did you get on the way to work?
Need to add +30% to that if you really want to know what it's actually cost you since that is how much energy you will actually consume at the plug.
30% is quite pessimistic. The Tesla AC charger is rated at 95% efficiency and I routinely get between 80% (below 5 degree C) to 96% (15C) charging at 7kW at home. The lower efficiency mostly comes from the car needing to heat the battery to a suitable temperature, rather than an inherent loss of energy at lower temp (in other words, charging an already heated battery at freezing temp would still be as efficient).
Assuming an average temperature of 10C, we could expect 90% charge efficiency.
Idle drainage is car-dependent and seems to be negligible on other EVs and more modern Teslas. Taking my 2017 MS with MCU2 as an example: it consumes 30W on idle. Over the period of a year the car would consume ~262kWh which is not ideal, but acceptable. It was reported that newer Tesla (from 2021?) has improved on this drastically and could sleep for many hours.
Energy consumed for heating is a function of the set vs. outside temperatures. In an ICE additional energy loss is represented by the reduced MPG on cold engine, in an EV it is represented by the increased consumption in the beginning of the journey. After the initial periods the ICE of course gets the heating for 'free', but cabin cooling consumes energy for both ICE & EV.
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Yeah those BMW diesels were very efficient compared to most. But still nowhere near as impressive as a Tesla drivetrain.
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