chickensworth
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Can’t consider yourself a car enthusiast till you own a Sonata pal. /s
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Except for being electric is it really that good
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Can’t consider yourself a car enthusiast till you own a Sonata pal. /s
UngaBunga1989
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So we have been discussing this and I never experienced a time I thought the model 3 was loud, Until yesterday. Took the car to the drag strip for test and tube night to race my buddies with a GTR and a 991 turbo. They both beat me, but I scared both of them since I was out in front 1/2 to 3/4 of the race. And that’s against cars that cost as much as two and three of my LR AWD. The road noise was insane when I crossed the finish line. 2nd run I paid more attention to speed. The noise gets exponentially louder after about 70 mph and at 100 mph it was deafening. At 70-80 reminded me of the road noise I got from my 1984 j60 Land Cruiser on 35” AT tires.
I’ll admit prior to this I don’t think I’d been over 70 and really only go even 65 for short <15 min stretches. The Tesla is an in town only up here in AK due to pretty much no charging infrastructure.
Yes, this is my main issue. We get on the highway everyday on our commute doing 70-80 and have to crank up the volume to uncomfortable levels to understand our podcast. On long road trips, it means we arrive more fatigued than our S which is noticeably quieter and smoother. I'm not an engineer, but I would think this could be addressed with more sound insulation and maybe better bushings between the drivetrain and cabin.
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Yes, filling it with sound deadening material and decoupling the tires with squishy, floaty suspension will make it quieter. It wouldn't be sporty or a driver's car, but it would be more pleasant.
Yeah there is no way I would sacrifice the handeling and ride for less cabin noise.
I like the car but there are some weird problems. The car can not read road signs no matter what they say. Matter being elevated. And the set speed to road sign some times works. Other than that I like it a lot
AlanSubie4Life
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Kilotango74
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AlanSubie4Life
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It cannot currently read road signs, and unless you purchased FSD, it likely never will.
Kilotango74
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The vast majority of what you're paying for is the electric drivetrain. You paid less than half the price for that privilege than people did a few years ago.
There is so much that comes with an electric drive train that I don't think you can really compare the two.
You're also comparing a high performance vehicle versus a non-performance vehicle. The Tesla is so much beyond what you really want in terms of acceleration that you put it in chill mode. Which is kinda like watering down a milk shake. It's no longer a $5 milkshake.
I imagine you're hoping for a more complete FSD solution, and that will come within a year or so.
But, you'll need to enter a destination to use it to its full potential.
The robot can't read your mind.
At least not yet...
If you don't care much for FSD (or at least the goals of it) then I think a Hyundai/Kia EV probably would have been a better fit for you. Especially if you don't care about the Supercharging network (that's another thing that's a big part of Tesla ownership).
Here is one from Kia that might interest you.
The Electrek Review: Kia Niro EV – The new normal…electric family car
There is so much that comes with an electric drive train that I don't think you can really compare the two.
You're also comparing a high performance vehicle versus a non-performance vehicle. The Tesla is so much beyond what you really want in terms of acceleration that you put it in chill mode. Which is kinda like watering down a milk shake. It's no longer a $5 milkshake.
I imagine you're hoping for a more complete FSD solution, and that will come within a year or so.
But, you'll need to enter a destination to use it to its full potential.
The robot can't read your mind.
At least not yet...
If you don't care much for FSD (or at least the goals of it) then I think a Hyundai/Kia EV probably would have been a better fit for you. Especially if you don't care about the Supercharging network (that's another thing that's a big part of Tesla ownership).
Here is one from Kia that might interest you.
The Electrek Review: Kia Niro EV – The new normal…electric family car
The current software doesn't read speed signs. It gets all its speed information from maps.
That will change within the next 6-12 months with HW3/FSD. It's my understanding that you got the FSD package so you'll get the HW3 computer. So it should be capable of reading signs in around 6-12 months.
It does suck that the maps are so poor when it comes to accurate speed limit information. That's definitely a negative about the vehicle right now.
The manual somewhat contradicts this:
"In situations where Speed Assist is unable to determine a speed limit (for example, speed limit signs and GPS data are not available at the current location), or if Speed Assist is uncertain that an acquired speed limit is accurate (for example, although a speed limit sign was initially detected, some time has passed before a subsequent sign has been detected), the touchscreen may not display a speed limit sign and warnings do not take effect."
I'm not trying to insist it works that way, but it's interesting that the manual talks about reading speed limit signs as if it's really happening.
I don't think the manual is specific to your hardware version. If it isn't, then that language is there for the AP1 cars which do use Mobileye code to read speed limit signs (not always well, especially the unusual types.)
StealthP3D
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No, it's not clear that the infotainment is any less liked than in any other car. An Internet car forum is ALWAYS full of a vocal minority and it's not a scientific sampling of owners. In fact, it's not even limited to owners, unlike the Consumer Reports survey.
Consumer Reports uses verified owners of each car surveyed. That means that industry hacks from the competition, short-sellers and fossil fuel defenders cannot participate. At all. Only verified owners. And real owners who are participating are generally not influenced by these people before they answer the questions. An independent, private party survey like this is the only way to assure an unpolluted sampling of real owners.
In short, no Virginia, Internet car forums are not representative of the typical owner. I've seen this time and time again.
StealthP3D
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I like it!
Now that I've driven a couple of Model 3's on a regular basis it's hard for me to get into or drive an archaic gasoline powered car. Night and day difference. I don't miss anything about the archaic beasts.
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