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You might be on Elon's s$&t list. You need to praise the mighty Musk and kiss the ring. It will move you ahead in the queue.
It's very important you leave the car alone while it's updating. Don't reboot the CID and definitely don't remove power or fuses. You can brick your car. The displays go dark, and then will come up with errors sometimes, just leave it alone until the CID reboots.
jgs
Active Member
How is a site that requires me to register and supply it with credentials to scrape the data not self reporting? It's not like it has access to the whole fleet, just a self-selected subset.
Well duh. How would they add two cupholders? You should just be happy that the software update opened the hidden rear console hatch to reveal the rear USB ports. Don't be greedy.
pjw65
Member
Teslafi is less significant because they only say 400 cars (and I bet more than 90% US), while http://ev-fw.com is more international with 570 cars active and thus more representative.
BertL
Active Member
Received 8.0 on my fully equipped early-build U.S. S90D via home WiFi this morning. It took about 1 hr 10 mins to install. For those that can deal with a l-o-n-g post and love bulletined lists, here's my first impressions:
Again, I’m appreciative of the free updates and new capabilities 8.0 provides. This new radar-biased TACC/AP for those of us with “AP Hardware V1” appears to have real promise, and I like that some effort has been expended on Infotainment. Thank you, Tesla.
…but I remain disappointed that Tesla has again not also provided more improvements to less technical functionality that real customers continue requesting and use in their everyday (non-AP) lives. We really do need a better balance of visionary features WITH real Customer needs and desires — and USB support that works for more than a few hundred tracks, please!
- All controls and settings moved across untouched, except for Slacker/TuneIn logon credentials (see below)
- Others have discussed AP, so I won’t. I’m taking a several hundred mile road trip beginning in a couple days and will give that a real spin then.
- FWIW, AP Autosteer and Summon remain noted as Beta functions in the menu system
- Nav. I’ll also defer to others at this point until I have more practical experience with it, except to say:
- I appreciate the effort attempting to provide more real estate for true map display
- You can now optionally avoid ferries and/or toll roads. There are no other new routing options.
- Trip Planner remains in Beta
- I have not yet been able to test if there is better contrast at night to clearly see street names. I’m hopeful, as the previous colored bubbles were too close to the text color, making it very hard for me to read them at lower display intensity.
- I very much like the new Controls / Controls / Trips ability to specify what you want displayed on the IC
- UI - It’s OK. As I’ve said, it’s very subjective, so for 1000 people, there will be 1000 opinions.
- I’m fine with the disappearing CID menu bar that provides more real estate for Nav. I still have my precious digital clock in the IC, or I’d have a very different opinion.
- My primary concern remains that Tesla has left speed, TACC/AP/important idiot lights at the top of the display. As discussed elsewhere, unlike 6.2, Tesla’s 7.x/8.0 choice is ergonomically horrible for some of us and becomes a safety concern not being able to see all important status information while having our steering wheel in a comfortable location.
- I have a pano, and yes, there is still an option on the right steering wheel dial to control it
- Voice Commands. Remains oriented towards basic Nav and streaming media -- nothing else
- I really like the simpler push, talk and see what MS thought you said on the right-side of the IC approach
- …and no, as someone upthread asked, you still can’t say something like “Call Mary Jane at work” to immediately dial that number if there is a work and home number assigned to the single contact. 8.0 pulls up a pick list.
- I’m not yet bought-in on the “immediate dial” feature, as twice in my brief tests, it misunderstood me and dialed a very odd contact on the other end I had to scramble to cancel
- I’m fine with the disappearing CID menu bar that provides more real estate for Nav. I still have my precious digital clock in the IC, or I’d have a very different opinion.
- Calendar has exited Beta at last. There is also what I perceive as a new “Last update: time” if you touch the “i” button to see when your MS last updated the data -- at least I don't remember that being there before -- maybe it was. I know someone will correct me.
- Homelink had also exited Beta. I actually like the single ding it provides when it transmits an open or close signal,, although if I was being nit-picky, a different even softer tone would be even better.
- It worked perfectly for me opening and closing my garage door without changing anything from previous release
- For those that care, the new Cabin Overheat Protection can only be turned on or off (defaults on) via Controls / Setting / Vehicle / Climate
- I would think that once 8.1 arrives, depending how much variation Tesla allows with setting lower/upper temp limits, the combination may then satisfy some people’s (not mine) desire of “camper mode”
- Media Player. As others have suggested, my impression is this is to a large degree, a new UI skin over the underlying troubled legacy code base. USB had notable changes for the good and bad (see below). For those that are into streaming music, the look/feel is very oriented to what you’re likely used to and probably love.
- Yes, no CarPlay and Android Auto support, but I didn’t expect it either
- The USB plugs still just provide power, nothing else when I tested it with my iPhone 7.
- Dolby. I need to spend some more time with this, but I’m not picking up any further improvements from what some of us perceived was delivered with one or more of the last 7.1 drops.
- Equalizer. A new graphical interface, but appears to be the same underlying capabilities as before.
- AM. No major changes.
- FM. Gracenotes album art is gone. Stations that deliver it, now display a station graphic (not album art) behind it’s favorites icon.
- SiriusXM received a bit of an improvement to find stations by category. Otherwise it appears to be the same functionality.
- Streaming (Slacker). I’m not a big user, but…
- Track art is still displayed
- Credentials are located by making the Slacker menu full-screen, then scrolling to the bottom of the upper section of the display
- Slacker appears to by default be logged-in to the free Tesla account. I tried putting in my Tesla credentials, but the sign-in screen never completed and just stayed with a spinning wheel. I also am not able to sign-in to my free personal Slacker account as the vehicle says it's invalid — I’ll have to work on that.
- TuneIn. I’m not a big user, but…
- Podcast art is still displayed
- Credentials are located at the bottom of the display. It appears to also be logged-in to the free Tesla account by default. I logged-in successfully to my personal TuneIn account as well and listened to a podcast. No issues.
- Media Search works across only Streaming & TuneIn either via typing or voice command, with an ability to specify in the interface if e.g. you want to only use the search term against say, "Albums" and a few other things.
- Phone (Formerly “Bluetooth”).
- It works like before displaying a list of MS-paired bluetooth devices. Select one, like my iPhone 7, and the current track the Music App on your device was playing came across the MS speakers, with basic track info AND the album art I have tagged as part of the tracks in my iTunes library displayed on the MS. Back/Pause/Play/Forward remain controllable via MS methods. I did not try any other music apps but see no reason why they too wouldn’t continue to operate.
- USB. Some positive improvements, but IMHO we took some significant steps back for those of us that primarily use USB music when enjoying our MS.
- I’m new to it, but what works as the new “Streaming UI”, initially appears a lot more challenging to relate with USB trying to go back and forth selecting and playing songs, albums, folders, etc. Try it for awhile and you’ll see.
- FAT and FAT32 remain supported
- I successfully tried both 128 and 256GB USB sticks of multiple mfgrs, so physical size does not appear to have changed
- I successfully tried a USB folder structure where the track was 3-deep. I’ll leave it to someone that cares more than I, to test how far scanning will now go.
- The interface will now display USB device volume labels if you have them, instead of the USB1/USB2 indicators we’ve always seen until now
- The media selection menu now shows the GB used and number of songs on each USB device
- BUG REPORT: Oddly, I have an Apple certified Lighting cable plugged into “USB1” with nothing on the other end, and it appears as “EFT” with 200MB Used and 0 Songs. Weird.
- During initial USB device scan, the interface now shows % complete. I personally like that better than the bar that sometimes got stuck in the previous interface.
- M4A, MP3, AIFF and FLAC all played back, so I assume nothing has changed with supported file types
- The interface correctly eliminates M4V Video, PDFs, etc during scan — however, most notably, M4A Apple Lossless tracks are scanned, then show up in the counts and lists, but upon selecting one to play, receive a “Loading Error”. (Continued workaround is to convert these filetypes to FLAC and Media Player will be happy.)
- No, there is no new (and unexpected) M3U Playlist support in 8.0, so just get over it
- No, there is no new gapless playback capability either
- Pause & Resume: Of the combinations I’ve tried thus far, there is GREAT IMPROVEMENT here at last. REJOICE …especially you audiobook and Podcast-on-a-USB fans! Examples:
- Play a USB track. Get out of your MS while it’s playing. Allow MS to go OFF. Get back in, and the track picks up playing within a second or two WHERE IT LEFT OFF!
- Play a USB track. Pause. Get out of your MS. Allow MS to go OFF. Get back in, and the track REMAINS PAUSED. When you press play, it picks up playing from where it was, just as you would expect it should.
- NEW + BUG REPORT: Imbedded Album Art now appears to be displayed when a track is played (that’s GREAT), and as an icon on Album/Song tags, but I’m finding it inconsistent.
- There can be a notable delay (several minutes) for some art to display, as I suspect as a lower priority, the firmware has to go out to the physical track, pull in and resize it if it’s not already cached. I can live with that, even though it's a bit unusual at first.
- I know my test tracks are compliant with imbedded art that works with iTunes, iOS Media Player, a number of other apps and via Bluetooth to my MS, but I’ve already found some will not display in the native Tesla USB interface even after several minutes of waiting. IDK yet what that issue may be — but I suspect the new interface is not handling some of the art that it believes is too big or we’ve got a new and different sort of memory constraint issue with this redesign.
- NEW BUG: I suspect Tesla has knowingly or unknowingly imposed a yet-to-be-documented limit on the number of tracks the USB media will support, or 8.0 firmware is reacting differently with larger libraries. WARNING TO THOSE WITH LARGE USB MUSIC LIBRARIES OR WHO REGULARLY SWITCH USB STICKS WITH ANY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF TRACKS.
- I’ve got to spend a lot more time on this one day, but my existing stick of 6100 tracks, that worked well with 7.1, really does not with 8.0. The issue is, where initial scanning was a 15-20 min process when my USB stick was inserted or the CID was rebooted in 7.x, after 1 hour doing the same with 8.0, it’s not even 80% complete with the initial scan. The scanning process also appears at some point to become exponentially slower the more tracks that are scanned (it took 15 minutes to go from 68%-78%), indicating perhaps some memory constraints or leakage. Regardless, until Tesla resolves this, if I want to use USB, I have little choice but to substantially reduce the number of tracks to get scan time back down to something within reason.
- NEW BUG/REQUIREMENT: Access via Songs (Tracks). The alpha-index shortcut is gone, making scrolling intolerable if you have any number of tracks, esp since there is no search capability.
- Access via Genre. Works OK as it did in 7.x.
- Access via Artist. IMHO it’s still broken. Tesla uses the (track) Artist tag, which is horrible for compilations and tracks with multiple artists. Without providing a true search against USB devices and tags, Tesla IMHO should instead use the Album Artist tag which would allow this to at least be functional. (Workaround is to use TeslaTunes to put Album Artist in the track Artist tags on every track.)
- Access by Folder. Works OK as it did in 7.x.
- OTHER 7.x BUGS I have not yet explored if they still exist or not:
- USB Phantom Playing
- Studdering
- Yes, no CarPlay and Android Auto support, but I didn’t expect it either
- TMC Requirements - Fall 2015. Scanning through the Top 25 Wish List that nearly 300 folks here on TMC created and prioritized last Fall, I find only 1 of the first 25 suggestions is partially addressed in 8.0. 8.1 may add to that with implementing “camper mode”. As such, it unfortunately appears Tesla did not use this input in any substantial way nearly 1 year after it was provided to them.
- #11. We did get the ability in 8.0 Nav to include/remove toll roads, but not the more complete requirement for road preferences.
Again, I’m appreciative of the free updates and new capabilities 8.0 provides. This new radar-biased TACC/AP for those of us with “AP Hardware V1” appears to have real promise, and I like that some effort has been expended on Infotainment. Thank you, Tesla.
…but I remain disappointed that Tesla has again not also provided more improvements to less technical functionality that real customers continue requesting and use in their everyday (non-AP) lives. We really do need a better balance of visionary features WITH real Customer needs and desires — and USB support that works for more than a few hundred tracks, please!
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DrManhattan
Member
400 cars and growing everyday. Anyway your 90% comment is probably not correct. See map.
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Just got it and I'm on on old pre-Ap car. The interface updates are nice. Overall a great update. I just can't find any way to set a temperature for the cabin overheating feature. The release notes say it's set to 40 Celsius which is pretty high and I would not let a pet or child in that high of a temperature. I couldn't find a setting to adjust the temperature. Is it hidden somewhere?
Yep, in the 8.1 release. (In 8.0 you only have the choice of on or off.)
pjw65
Member
Thanks for clarifying this. Looks quite split all over the world, not what I was expecting.
But what I don't like is, as a non subscriber I can see nothing on Teslafi.
Thats different with http://ev-fw.com and Tesla Logs - Global Version History where I subscribed.
I just figured, if they say they will be able to put a person on Mars, then they definitely should be able to add more cup holders through a software update... just saying... logic right....
pdxgibby
Software Engineer
Your global stats are pretty cool...however, for those of us in the US, we can do a better job. Of the ~570 cars that reported getting 7.1, 2.36.31, only 372 of those are from the US. So, US-based statistics...are as follows since all of the updates are stateside at this point:
day 1 (4% received 2.36.106)
day 2 (20% received 2.36.108)
day 3 ( 8%)
day 4 ( 4%)
day 5 (23%)
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55% of reporting US cars are on 2.36.108 (206/372)
Neuromancer
Member
Hopefully that closest parking lot wasn't in a sketchy neighborhood...as you know, your car can't move during a software update.
Bruce.
Wasn't the best neighborhood, but I have a concealed carry permit and a Glock in the glovebox. My Glock never requires a firmware upgrade for operation.
Everything went smoothly... testing now and will give AP specific observations later this afternoon.
anxman
Member
Hang in there
I have one of the earliest VIN P85Ds and I'm still waiting. Even 7.0 took a while to hit my car. Once you have it, you won't even remember waiting for it.
tinm
2020 Model S LR+ Owner
Got 8.0. Disappointed to see Tesla's design team, aka Apple's design team, copy Apple's flat design motif. I don't think it improves usability.
And WHAT WERE THEY THINKING with the Netflixization of the Media app? It's like they wanna turn it into AppleTV's browsing interface. Showing a gazillion "album covers" of radio station logos and whatnot just means a ton more scrolling. Nothing is where I left it. Ugh. It's a mess. And of course, no MP3 device support, and lousy USB support. And this is what Elon thinks is a revolutionary "modern" media app? And why the hell did they log me out of TuneIn? Now I have to go figure out what my password is and log in again? Dumb.
And WHAT WERE THEY THINKING with the Netflixization of the Media app? It's like they wanna turn it into AppleTV's browsing interface. Showing a gazillion "album covers" of radio station logos and whatnot just means a ton more scrolling. Nothing is where I left it. Ugh. It's a mess. And of course, no MP3 device support, and lousy USB support. And this is what Elon thinks is a revolutionary "modern" media app? And why the hell did they log me out of TuneIn? Now I have to go figure out what my password is and log in again? Dumb.