Front facing camera heating element on while parked despite Sentry disabled

[plisken]

Car's been parked for a couple of days and this evening, one of my security type cameras caught this;

which appears to show that the front facing camera area heating element is on.

Sentry is disabled, car doesn't get plugged in while at home. I checked with the app which was showing the interior at -5 degC so definitely haven't left climate on or anything.

Software is 2022.44.something

Any ideas or thoughts?

 

[Durzel]

Model? Year?

 

[MadManMark]

Car's been parked for a couple of days and this evening, one of my security type cameras caught this;

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which appears to show that the front facing camera area heating element is on.

Sentry is disabled, car doesn't get plugged in while at home. I checked with the app which was showing the interior at -5 degC so definitely haven't left climate on or anything.

Software is 2022.44.something

Any ideas or thoughts?

I also noticed this on my car a couple of days go (2021 M3 LR)

 

[speedyranger74]

Checked now and my windscreen is all frozen ( -6°C) - LR 03/2020

 

[plisken]

Model? Year?

Its in my signature and its not a BMW

Model 3 LR late 21


All joking aside, the only thing I have done different to every other day when I park up, was to disable mirror folding as they had previously failed to unfold due to frost and of course I was expecting a few days of sub zero. Would doubt that was a contributing factor right enough.

I've popped my head out just now and it's still the same, currently -7 degC

 

[ACarneiro]

Interesting. Mine has always done this (2019 M3) so I assumed this was normal behaviour…

 

[Durzel]

Its in my signature and its not a BMW

Model 3 LR late 21


All joking aside, the only thing I have done different to every other day when I park up, was to disable mirror folding as they had previously failed to unfold due to frost and of course I was expecting a few days of sub zero. Would doubt that was a contributing factor right enough.

I've popped my head out just now and it's still the same, currently -7 degC

Signatures don’t show on mobile

Sounds very strange. Only thing that makes sense - assuming the car isn’t awake - is that the heating element is connected to live 12v or something, but that would drain the battery fairly quickly I would’ve thought.

Perhaps worth opening a service request for?

 

[outdoors]

Been this way since 2017. A picture as well when we all were discovering one of the first model 3s off the line.

 

[MrBadger]

Been this way since 2017. A picture as well when we all were discovering one of the first model 3s off the line.
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Oh no it hasn’t … not without sentry anyway

Nov 2019

 

[outdoors]

Oh no it hasn’t … not without sentry anyway

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Well sentry didn't exist then. So how did that spot magically melt? That picture and about 30 more I have over the last 5 years. Some sentry some not. Same behavior. Car had sat for couple days.

Just taking a one shot flir in 2019 really doesn't mean anything.

 

[MrBadger]

Well sentry didn't exist then. So how did that spot magically melt? That picture and about 30 more I have over the last 5 years. Some sentry some not. Same behavior. Car had sat for couple days.

Just taking a one shot flir really doesn't mean anything.

I’ve got dozens of other photos over 3 years that also show no melt. In fact for a period of time, it was the only part of the windscreen that never melted due to a Tesla bug.

Maybe a UK thing? No because if it was intentional there would be a line around the passenger side of the window where the heating element has warmed.

It is likely to be a result of side effect of warmth from cameras as 0 evidence of any intentional heating of that area going on in either shot.

Why are those cameras now warm in OP’s shot is the real question - it’s a new phenomenon for them.

This is what happens when that area is intentionally heated. Note the warmth from heating element running along top and down passenger side of screen.

 

[The_Cable_Guy]

will probably to do with a coating on the glass where the camera is rather than the camera itself

 

[outdoors]

I’ve got dozens of other photos over 3 years that also show no melt

How many of those were cold soaked cars? Days and days of no driving. Not just a sprinkle of snow and frost. No coating applied to glass.

Sure some might want to make a service appointment. Just wasting time of service center as one discovers more about ones car.

Pull the draw for the line if the OP is so concerned about a phantom drain.. Truly negligible.

Saw an edit to a post of above photo. Sentry was released in 2019. Not sure why flir dated photo has any reference. Sentry Mode: Guarding Your Tesla | Tesla

 

[MrBadger]

Wow - your snow is better than my snow and suddenly you make a reference to OP being concerned about phantom drain. I missed that bit

Lots of recent photos on forum of cars covered in snow but no cameras cleared.

 

[outdoors]

likely to be a result of side effect of warmth from cameras as 0 evidence of any intentional heating of that area going on in either shot.

Not sure intent has anything to do withit it. That is all I have ever said. The camera acts on its own. Whether that is not is its intent I don't know. I also never said it was a heating element. I all I said this is how the car behaves, and does. My picture no heating element was used and a S and 3 sat cold soaked for days.

Did I say snow was better? Many don't know what a truly cold soaked car is. As in sat for days without driving and not conditioned. Confused about your comment.

Edit add: the card reader on the side of the car will also do the same thing around frost. Doubt intentional, but if something has current it also has resistance.

 

[mick4545]

I updated to the holiday software and went out to the car. The camera heater seems to have activated during the update, it is now freezing over again

 

[Adopado]

I did the full "de-frost" precondition from the app the other morning and the only bit that wasn't melted clear was that front camera patch!

 

[Mr H]

Signatures don’t show on mobile

Turn your phone sideways

 

[MrBadger]

I did the full "de-frost" precondition from the app the other morning and the only bit that wasn't melted clear was that front camera patch!

Please don't say that one is back...

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[PaulF2020]

HI Guys,

Ok, could someone please clarify to me, should frontal camera heater work when defrost is on and sentry is off?