FSD Beta Videos (and questions for FSD Beta drivers)

[mark95476]

It looks like over 11k people on FSDbeta.

I started taking FSDbeta out at night when traffic was minimal and I ran into a bunch of problems like phantom braking and random slow-downs. It's been >1 week and it's gotten so much better. Last night was absolutely perfect, even after disabling auto high-beams.

Speculating--
I don't think FSDbeta's NNs get reset before/after each drive. This makes it harder to repro issues, unfortunately.

Some NNs output probabilities so I'm thinking weights get updated adaptively resulting in better predictions the more you drive (less likely to brake unexpectedly in this case). So if FSDbeta braked and the driver performed an override then FSDbeta knows it made an error and adjusts its NNs to reduce the likelyhood of making that same error.

I want to see what happens with 10.3.1 to 10.4. I wonder if my 10.3.1's NN states are going to be used for initializing 10.4 NNs or do they get reset to some default and I need to drive around for a bit. It's going to be hard to tell as 10.4 NNs are probably going to change.

FSD beta is and has been mind blowing, if you consider what's going on under the hood and the improvements they've made. As for the driving part, if you've been following my posts, I never thought it was ready for public consumption, even now it's hard to believe they're continuing to expand the beta.

 

[mhan00]

He basically says the same thing before every release, and it's usually late 1-2 days, which is fine. "Probable" doesn't sound as promising as prior tweets though.

After the debacle of 10.3 I would hope they’re being more careful.

 

[mhan00]

Mediocre drive from DT. He has a good example of the weird decision by Beta to change lanes away from an upcoming turn here.

 

[n.one.one]

 

[Foxrocks]

Can fsd stop using the brakes so much? Regen braking should be enough but the depth perception is so bad sometimes.

 

[powertoold]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1456992506919497730

 

[EVNow]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1456992506919497730

So, they are sending 10.4 to youtubers earlier ?

Ps: Not his car - must be an employee car.

 

[n.one.one]

So, they are sending 10.4 to youtubers earlier ?

It doesn't seem they are. Dirty Tesla was asked and he said no. My guess is it was leaked to him by an internal tester.

 

[Mardak]

must be an employee car

I believe this 10.4 video is from an employee. I've chatted with some around here that got FSD as an employee perk and some got FSD Beta just before public beta.

 

[n.one.one]

2021.36.8.5 is downloading now. I'm hoping this is 10.4 but don't know yet.
Based on Teslascope stats showing the previous version was 2021.36.5.3 it appears this IS 10.4 but time will tell. As of just now it hasn't shown up on TeslaFi yet.

 

[n.one.one]

TeslaFi info is now updated and it's pretty clear this is 10.4.
Edit: My installation is complete and this is 10.4.

 

[mhan00]

Not impressed at all with 10.4. The slowly creep forward until the car is sitting in the middle of the intersection is seriously stupid.

 

[powertoold]

10.4's unprotected left turn logic through cross traffic seems bad in the videos. There were multiple instances of it creeping and stopping in the middle of the road. Seems like a regression to version 10.0 or thereabouts (for the ULT logic).

Not impressed so far, although preparation for turns seems smoother based on the steering wheel. Will have to wait to get it in my own car to assess.

 

[AndreP]

FSD Beta is the only software I’ve seen with release notes where I have almost no clue what half the stuff even means in terms of impact when actually using the product

If you Google some of the exact wording used here within quotations, literally the only results are parsed notes from this patch

 

[mhan00]

Pretty good drive for Frenchie. A couple of dumb mistakes by the car, but mostly pretty good if a bit slow and hesitant at times. It’s actually improved a ton for him from when he first got the Beta and he had constant disengagements, a lot trying to avoid curbing his wheels on turns and a few where his car would literally turn so sharply on lefts that his car would go into the oncoming lane.

 

[AndreP]

Frenchie needs to run with more traffic, his latest videos have almost zero interaction with other drivers

 

[SK360]

My normal test loop from my neighborhood. Got a bad phantom brake due to shadow across road at 3:40 otherwise no interventions at the intersections.

Intersection at 9:30 it would creep literally through the entire thing on 10.3.1, I went to proceed with the pedal on 10.4 and before I could the car decided to go. I’m calling that an improvement.

Lots of wheel movement pulling into my neighborhood, a regression from 10.3.1

 

[EVNow]

First live FSD video I've seen.

 

[AndreP]

Crazy to think Frenchie has been doing his test route for a year now

 

[mhan00]

Slightly iffy drive from DT. I was actually pretty impressed even with the errors. A lot of the errors were from having trouble dealing with construction cones. But it also did a lot right too.