yerEVan
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Thank you for this. Very enlightening. I noticed you did not send feedback on any of the instances where you were concerned or actually had to take over. Why is that? Or if you take over it automatically send feedback I guess?
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It’s amazing how many of the pedestrians were walking/ jogging on the WRONG side of road. Cyclists are supposed to travel with the flow of traffic, pedestrians, against the flow of traffic. Doesn’t surprise me, as most people just seem to do whatever the hell they want anyways nowadays, like FaceTiming while driving and things like that... I see it all, I drive 20-30,000miles a year.
I did a similar long distance drive in my MY recently with AP and it also freaked out with those blinking lights. I am surprised they are unable to handle them actually. Also a few times (I think when it's raining) my car does these "break spasms" where it starts aggressively breaking and releasing many times over a ~5 second period, when there is no reason to do so. I am hoping this is a common glitch and not a problem with my sensors.
Ha, do you think they will widen the FSD beta to all of us this month, or are you thinking about buying the current 10k FSD package?
Chazman92
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I only get to press the button 5 times between downloads. The snapshot button cannot be used at every issue. Early Access has asked us to only use that button where video snapshots would be helpful. The disengagement are all captured too, but perhaps without the snapshot downloads.
Chuck
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yerEVan
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I’ll pay your supercharging miles if you drive up near me. I would LOVE to see this thing in Philly burbs.
Ok I have an idea. We swap cars for a week. I’ll see you in North Carolina in 10 hours (roughly half way).
Ok I have an idea. We swap cars for a week. I’ll see you in North Carolina in 10 hours (roughly half way).
FULL Drive from Sacramento to Merced - GOPRO TIME WARP TESLA FSDBETA 2020.44.15.4 - 4:10 - Brandonee916
** This could end up being meaningful (or not)...time will tell. **
https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1335363589281112069
https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1335363589281112069
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Not 100% sure of what this is about. Is it supposed to be early workings of the 360º overhead view? If so it doesn't seem to be what people are asking for at all. Or is it about new Mapping options that are being tested or is it about new UI being tested but just using the Map side of the screen? Would like a better explanation. So far has any publication picked up Green's info and written an article?
quadroplexor
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The 25mph speed limit is way too high in parking lots, the way it accelerates on straightaways in front of the stores is unsafe.
Stuff like this might be part of the reason why Tesla doesn’t “left justify” like Brandon says they should.
3:50 - Brandon gives his opinion that the people asking him how to get the beta shouldn’t want it. Says it’s more stressful to use than not as he continually is forced to cancel the turn signal while stopped at a light. Bugs need to fixed before it’s ready for a general release.
4:55 - no turn signal as the car tries to change lanes to the turn lane (swerves back and forth), Brandon says it was doing it in front of a car behind him (visible on the display). not good.
7:00 - intervention at unprotected left turn. Car starts to pull forward while traffic approaches rapidly from the left. Definitely not a creep for better visibility (no text box on screen saying so), just complete failure to see traffic, apparently. Brandon is reiterating that the people asking him how to get the beta don’t want it. Says his car pulling out caused a reaction from the oncoming traffic on the unprotected left, which (IMO) isn’t safe even if he overrode it.
7:50 - Brandon speculates that Tesla might have to disable unprotected left turns and require confirmation for those scenarios.
8:20 - disengagement from Brandon because the car changed lanes into the turn lane very abruptly. I don’t think the disengagement was necessary from a safety standpoint, but it definitely looked abrupt and if the driver isn’t comfortable they should disengage. Brandon says Tesla told him that the build was more of an alpha level when he was contacted for the beta, and he agrees with that.
Some jerks to the right with cars to his right as he approaches traffic lights for some unknown reason. Nothing that merited a disengagement, but odd. He speculates it might be due to sun glare.
11:20 - phantom braking event as he was crossing an intersection. Slowed from 35 to 25 very rapidly before he was able to override.
11:55 - odd twitching of the wheel as the car did mini swerves back and forth crossing an intersection. No disengagement, but that isn’t something that would make any drivers around the car comfortable.
12:20 - two disengagement’s as the the car tries to change to the right lane with a left turn upcoming.
13:00 - Brandon sounds pretty done with the beta. Says using it on the drive to Merced was so stressful and exhausting that he didn’t want to drive at all. Disappointing for FSD Beta since that’s the opposite of how NoAP makes me feel, but expected given what I’ve seen on his videos.
Brandon is sounding pretty burned out right now. I hope Tesla has his channel favorited and has their AP team poring over his issues. There was a pretty big improvement in Sacramento, but in a new city Merced it looks like there has been significant regression. Merced not mapped as well as Sac?
When people would say that FSD Beta would be available before the end of the year I have argued it would likely be closer to March. After watching the latest videos I would now say it may be May. It is just FAR too dangerous to allow in people hands at they point.
2:20 - disengagement as the car accelerated way too quickly for a parking lot and the car didn’t acknowledge a pedestrian walking in a perpendicular lane.
5:10 - disengagement as the car accelerated towards a fence lining the parking lot with a median and a bunch of carts in front of it. No clue what the system was doing there.
7:05 - fails another unprotected left turn. Pulls out with a car approaching.
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10:20 - car throws up warnings and disengages beta in a parking lot after a little swerving.
12:25 - disengagement to stop the car from hitting a median.
14:10 - went through a narrow bank drive thru well.
15:15 - it technically made a couple of turns to get onto the main road, but it didn’t look like it handled any of them particularly well. Driver let the car do it’s thing because there were no other cars.
16:40 - car hits a curb. No apparent damage. Still didn’t look good.
18:10 - disengagement as the car was accelerating towards an oncoming car in the parking lot. No imminent crash, so the car might have corrected, but I don’t blame Mr Cook for overriding.
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First, it was good to see the improvement in the newest build and it FSD adjusting the speed. As to your point you do realize testers are providing valuable data to Tesla engineers?
I think we'll have a better idea after the next release how close it may be to expanding the number of beta users.
Bunch of nervous nellies in here. I still maintain it will be out in 3-9 weeks.
Advanced Summon was released well before it was ready (still isn't ready) and there's not even anyone in the CAR when that is going down.
Advanced Summon was released well before it was ready (still isn't ready) and there's not even anyone in the CAR when that is going down.
Advanced summon goes less than 5 mph and isn’t enabled at all on public roads. Worst than can happen on smart summon is a fender bender or curb rash. The consequences of FSD screwing up with an inattentive driver at the helm are several orders of magnitude more serious than if smart summons screws up.
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