dmckinstry
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Well, at least near Denver the don't. They just photograph your license plate. If you're from out of state, they mail you the charges.
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Waiting4M3
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Sounds like toll road is fine, but how each states approach financing is the problem. So can we stay on topic please? Toll roads, that's what we're here for, right?
I think that a quote deserves to be here. They are going after Musk in a quite personal way. A very good sign IMO:
Yes, the fear is palpable.
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One of the freeways in Sydney, Oz, became free after 10 years. Then then widened it and put the toll back. It's a "motorway" again now.
That's an interesting concept.
UK shows 'June'. Australia and New Zealand show 'late May'. HK does not show dates.
That is not indicating a RHD issue. Notably countries served from Tilburg do not differ. this similarity is exceedingly rare, I'm tempted to say unprecedented. Obviously it means something!
Waiting4M3
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Oh well, at least now non-owners can't just buy a MS/X and cut in front of the line on M3.
Yep. This is a big deal for Daimler and eventually for Tesla. In 2017 the Daimler truck business was $35 billion in revenue -- 22% of Daimler's total -- on sales of 470K units up from 415K (not all Semis). https://www.daimler.com/dokumente/i...chte/daimler/daimler-ir-factsheet-fy-2017.pdf (slides 10, 17-21).
Elon estimated 100K/year Semis in four years but I think that's like the original production estimate of 20K/year Model S's -- a starting point for high volume production of trucks not an end point.
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Then think about the impact potential for Daimler trucks in the US: Mercedes-Benz, Thomas Built, Fuso, Freightliner, Western Star, Detroit Diesel. The last would appear to be doomed. The first two are vans and school busses with lots of BEV competition emerging for both. In between are brands ready to be hammered by Tesla. Bluntly, if we know they're worried about Tesla cars, just imagine how they feel about Semi.
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Daimler Quote from Article:
“We don’t know for sure how batteries for trucks will react after being in use for four to five years -- it’s very complex.”
Can Anyone think of a company that might know the answer?
“We don’t know for sure how batteries for trucks will react after being in use for four to five years -- it’s very complex.”
Can Anyone think of a company that might know the answer?
DurandalAI
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Wouldn’t buying a used Tesla S accomplish this?
I understand in Germany, perhaps other democracies, awards for contractors are not to lowest bidder but one with best warranty.
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I wonder if FSD is the only " AI thing " Tesla is working on. Or will it always stay that way once FSD is there ?
I think Tesla Network is next.
Effect of the Starman advertisement?
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Might be helpful. but what this guy is talking about is 1 million miles in 5 years. Also pointless because Tesla is not using those cells in the Semi. Who knows what they are using in the semi. It almost makes sense that if 2170 is great for cars there is a cell architecture that is different and better for Semis. It could be 42140.. who knows. It is not clear that a jump in tech needs to happen as its clear that Tesla focused on Drag and probably weight of the vehicle not including the drive train. The improvements needed to get a 800KWh - 1MWh pack to go 500 miles while hauling 80,000lbs is not a huge stretch. You can multiply a model 3 by 10 and get there pretty easily. The million+ miles is another challenge that I think people have made more stink about, including Nikola Motors where they claim that Tesla would have to NMC instead of NCA because of the need to recharge 5000 times to get to get to 1 million miles and the energy density would be an issue as I would assume charge rates. Maybe this is a Jeff Dahn battery improvement that is more about durability then a lot more density. Both are issues for cars, but for Semi the ability to almost fully recharge the battery 2 times every workday for 10 years is key (250 work days a year x 2 charges a day x 10 years = 5000 cycles). That would be the extreme and would be more like ~250,000 miles a year which would be highly unlikely, unless the semi is autonomous, then it will be the minimum.
To me, I can totally see how Tesla is getting to the range and pack size and recharging. The main question I have is how is it going to fair over 10 years. Does it even matter. Think about it this way. Tesla could guarantee the pack or replace it. They could then re-purpose the old packs for Megacharging and Utility projects where an 80% semi pack degrading to 50% after another 10 years is not a big deal, just double the number of packs over the 10 years. How much better are the semi packs going to be in 12 years? My point is that Tesla can buy time for tech to catch up, though I think they are already to a point where 1m miles is totally attainable, which is what they are guaranteeing.
CNBC just aired a Mercedes Benz commercial touting a 5 year unlimited mile warranty on MB certified pre owned vehicles. Between that and their 1.99% lending rates I wouldn't be feeling great if I were invested in Daimler. 
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