Germany bans Cybertruck

[ThomasD]

Tesla hasn't even released crash test results and it is already being banned for sale

Tesla Cybertruck Too Unsafe To Be Sold In Europe, German Authorities Say | Carscoops

The Tesla Cybertruck's structure is too rigid and won't absorb the enormous forces in the event of an accident

www.carscoops.com

 

[araxara]

The Article is from December 19, 2019. I think the structure of the Cybertruck has changed since then, but in any case, I would think they need to see a finished sample, before making such a determination.

 

[ThomasD]

That is what I thought also

 

[scottf200]

An excellent (!) YT video on the USA vs europe/germany automotive requirements (ie. USA is passenger focused almost entirely where as others are pedestrians and outside the car focused).

Title:

DRIVING CULTURE CLASH: Why do our Cars LOOK so Radically Different?​

 

[tashtibet]

gas prices in Europe is focused on pollution & health while in the US it's subsidies for over 100 years.

 

[prettig]

Fronts needs to be "soft" materials in EU. So replace the hood/bonnet and front piece with soft materials (blanc coated steel or wrapped).

Once delivered, drive to Tesla and have them replaced. This happend in the US years ago, stupid and ugly large bumpers manadatory to get the car road legal.. Most owners just replaced them with the EU versions.

 

[voyager]

The Article is from December 19, 2019. I think the structure of the Cybertruck has changed since then, but in any case, I would think they need to see a finished sample, before making such a determination.

https://www.technology.org/2023/12/08/unsafe-design-experts-raise-concerns-about-tesla-cybertruck/

Six safety professors and officials, who analyzed crash test videos presented during a webcast delivery event, expressed worries about potential harm to pedestrians, cyclists, and other vehicles on the road, Reuters wrote in a recently published article.

Elon Musk made the Tesla Cybertruck so strong, it may be illegal in the EU. Here’s why

While Elon Musk made the Cybertruck so strong that it may “in an argument with another car,” Tesla might not be able to sell the EV truck in the EU because of this very reason. The Cybertruck has very little to no crumple zones, making it unsafe for pedestrians in case of a crash

www.firstpost.com

One of the most important rules that all carmakers who want to do business in the EU must follow, is that the front of the car cannot be stiff, meaning it has to have a proper crumple zone to reduce the impact of the crash.

Tesla Cybertruck's stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns -experts

The angular design of Tesla's Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck's stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.

www.reuters.com

"Much of the concern was focused on those outside the Cybertruck. "If you have an argument with another car, you will win," Musk said."

 

[voyager]

Probably not coming to the UK as well.

Will the Tesla Cybertruck Come Out in the UK? | Stable Blog

The long-awaited Tesla Cybertruck has recently been released in the US but we here on our little island we are thinking, will it come out in the UK?

www.stablevehiclecontracts.co.uk

 

[voyager]

Someone commented on Carscoops:
In case of a fire or accident, good luck for someone or rescue services get in to this death trap to save the occupants...
Can't even break the glass. It's bulletproof, so there's that...

 

[SidetrackedSue]

Someone commented on Carscoops:
In case of a fire or accident, good luck for someone or rescue services get in to this death trap to save the occupants...
Can't even break the glass. It's bulletproof, so there's that...

The glass isn't bulletproof.

It probably isn't even baseball-thrown-by-a-pitcher-proof.

 

[voyager]

The glass isn't bulletproof.

It probably isn't even baseball-thrown-by-a-pitcher-proof.

 

[polyphonic54]

Musk is claiming both that this will “win” against all other cars in a collision, and that it will be the safest truck for pedestrians ever made.

This has to come from an over-reliance and over-hyping of auto emergency braking technology.

 

[Krugerrand]

gas prices in Europe is focused on pollution & health while in the US it's subsidies for over 100 years.

You might want to back up the sanctimonious train there just a wee bit; Europe, home of VW and all the rest who rigged their cars to cheat emissions testing for years and years and years, so they could pump poison into the air and kill hundreds of thousands of humans prematurely. VW which actually hooked humans up to vehicle tailpipes as experiments and then decided, yeah, we’re going to rig our vehicles to cheat emissions tests and knowingly poison people.

Additionally, one might argue that focusing on pedestrian safety suggests you all might want to learn to drive better and stop hitting pedestrians. Whereas Tesla with their NN/FSD technology focus is trying to take pedestrians and drivers completely out of the equation so nobody gets hurt.

Relax, we all know that both sides of the ocean are guilty of . Take your anger and hatred, and flush it. It doesn’t serve any purpose but to make you ugly inside and out.

 

[terranx]

This has to come from an over-reliance and over-hyping of auto emergency braking technology.

Musk exaggerating the capabilities of a driver assist system? Surely he’d never do that.

 

[voyager]

Interesting!
When in a high-speed collision, Cybertruck’s front underbody casting is designed to break into small pieces. This helps reduce occupant impact by absorbing & dispensing energy.
This manufacturing simplification is great for manufacturing costs and initial vehicle cost, but, as has been pointed out before, it could have implications on the cost of repair. While a mild fender bender in the Cybertruck may turn out to be rather inexpensive, any collision that transmits substantial amounts of energy to the front casting would likely damage the part catastrophically.

Tesla Cybertruck crumple zones rely on shattering gigacastings for occupant safety — repair cost implications could be dire

Tesla recently explained how the crumple zones in the Cybertruck help protect the electric pickup truck's occupants. As opposed to a bending frame, collisions seem to obliterate the entire front gigacasting. The Cybertruck's safety has been called into question a number of times due to its stiff...

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[kabin]

Interesting!
When in a high-speed collision, Cybertruck’s front underbody casting is designed to break into small pieces. This helps reduce occupant impact by absorbing & dispensing energy.
This manufacturing simplification is great for manufacturing costs and initial vehicle cost, but, as has been pointed out before, it could have implications on the cost of repair. While a mild fender bender in the Cybertruck may turn out to be rather inexpensive, any collision that transmits substantial amounts of energy to the front casting would likely damage the part catastrophically.

Tesla Cybertruck crumple zones rely on shattering gigacastings for occupant safety — repair cost implications could be dire

Tesla recently explained how the crumple zones in the Cybertruck help protect the electric pickup truck's occupants. As opposed to a bending frame, collisions seem to obliterate the entire front gigacasting. The Cybertruck's safety has been called into question a number of times due to its stiff...

www.notebookcheck.net

Yep and related to that at least two car rental companies are already planning to clear their fleet of Tesla's related to high repair costs.

 

[Zorg]

End of the day, trucks with giant hoods, soft or not, are not pedestrians friendly in case of crashes.

 

[Just a Reader]

Fronts needs to be "soft" materials in EU. So replace the hood/bonnet and front piece with soft materials (blanc coated steel or wrapped).

Once delivered, drive to Tesla and have them replaced. This happend in the US years ago, stupid and ugly large bumpers manadatory to get the car road legal.. Most owners just replaced them with the EU versions.

This would render the CT immediately illegal to be driven on public roads, resulting in substantial fines for the driver. The issue isn't just that the front isn't sufficiently soft, it's also because the edges are too sharp.

 

[ThomasD]

Tesla does state shatter resistant Armor Glass for the Cybertruck

Cybertruck

Cybertruck is designed to have the utility of a truck with sports car performance. Built to be durable, versatile, capable and high-performance both on-road and off-road.

www.tesla.com

 

[Leeclanual]

Does it really matter if available in Europe? Over a million orders in the US… more added daily… enough orders to surpass any export requirements for many years