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Does it really have 8000 mi tires?
The 21" wheels have tires that should last twice that.
The 21" wheels come with Continental Extreme Contact DW 245/35R21 tires. From the reviews, they should last at least 10k miles, but might not last much beyond that (although some have taken it to 20k+ and beyond).Porsche Panamera with 20" Pirelli P Zero Rosso Treadwear rating 300-rear tires replaced at 8000 miles, fronts at 10,000 miles. Cost Average $450 per tire plus tax and installation. The Model S weighs over 600 lbs more. I highly doubt the 21" tires which should cost even more will last more than 8-10,000 miles. None of the low profile Z rated summer tires I have owned on multiple cars over the past 8 years have lasted over 12,000 miles.
The 19" all season tires will last significantly longer.
I have to agree with Dr. Chill on the "weight" of the vehicle at low speeds. What I didn't realize was that the steering was set to sport mode which added a significant amount of heft to the feel of the car. Once it was adjusted to normal it was quite manuverable in the parking lot and through slow speed turns. If the steering feel is the deal breaker then I would suggest driving the car again with the steering weighted to your liking. If the size of the car is the deal breaker then I agree 100% with your decision.
I too have a lot of experience racing cars and motorcycles and driving dynamics are crutial. I never had an expectation of the Model S feeling "light on its feet" so there was no disapointment there. I will say that I was really surprised at how well it did handle in spite of its weight and dimentions.
BTW - My motorcycles will have to get relocated to other parts of the garage to fit the MS in and actually get out of the car Currently, there is a Honda S2000 there that doesn't take up much space at all
The 21" wheels come with Continental Extreme Contact DW 245/35R21 tires. From the reviews, they should last at least 10k miles, but might not last much beyond that (although some have taken it to 20k+ and beyond).
http://reviews.conti-online.com/7501-en_us/3377486/extremecontact-dw-reviews/reviews.htm
http://www.tirerack.com/survey/Surv...ontact+DW&fromTireDetail=true&tirePageLocQty=
Definitely the all seasons will last much longer.
I'm showing 220 rating for those tires on 20". The Contis are rated for 340. So extrapolating 8000 miles on 220 rating to a 340 rating... 12000 miles should be about average.Porsche Panamera with 20" Pirelli P Zero Rosso Treadwear rating 300-rear tires replaced at 8000 miles, fronts at 10,000 miles. Cost Average $450 per tire plus tax and installation.Inability to rotate the tires due to staggered sizes accounts for the difference, but the Model S weighs over 600 lbs more which should increase tire wear. I highly doubt the 21" tires, which should cost even more, will last more than 10-12,000 miles. None of the low profile Z rated summer tires I have owned on multiple cars over the past 8 years have lasted over 12,000 miles.
The 19" all season tires will last significantly longer. Frequent tire rotation should help tire life.
I must be much older than you Jerry...to me, Boat cars were Lincoln town cars, Mercury Marquis & Meteors, and such...:biggrin:
From a stop in a slow moving environment like a parking lot, the mass of the car requires significant throttle input to get moving and once up and running it is fine.
Porsche Panamera with 20" Pirelli P Zero Rosso Treadwear rating 300-rear tires replaced at 8000 miles, fronts at 10,000 miles. Cost Average $450 per tire plus tax and installation.Inability to rotate the tires due to staggered sizes accounts for the difference, but the Model S weighs over 600 lbs more which should increase tire wear. I highly doubt the 21" tires, which should cost even more, will last more than 10-12,000 miles. None of the low profile Z rated summer tires I have owned on multiple cars over the past 8 years have lasted over 12,000 miles.
The 19" all season tires will last significantly longer. Frequent tire rotation should help tire life.
I'm showing 220 rating for those tires on 20". The Contis are rated for 340. So extrapolating 8000 miles on 220 rating to a 340 rating... 12000 miles should be about average.
Oh, and I also agree the size of this car matters quite a bit. Also a 'clean the garage' thing for me. :redface:
the contisport contact 3s on my 987 boxster lasted 22K miles until I corded them, and this included a few track days. I must not be driving hard enough
wear rating indexes don't carry over from manufacturer to manufacturer, they are indexed at 100 for a specific manufacture. so you can only compare tires from the same company.
Interesting. Didn't know that. Kind of sucks, speaking as a consumer.wear rating indexes don't carry over from manufacturer to manufacturer, they are indexed at 100 for a specific manufacture. so you can only compare tires from the same company.
Interesting. Didn't know that. Kind of sucks, speaking as a consumer.
It is a rather large car.