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Have you received FSD you paid for?
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L4 FSD Capability dependent on regulatory approval is what you bought
Beta forever is what you got, and a safety score game to unlock the extra juicy beta
Tesomega
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Even that we MCU1/FSD Owners don't have
SunCharged
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Everyone seems to forget about this. Crazy how how the goalposts have moved and no one cares.
EVNow
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Huh ? .... they have not changed the promise to people who bought before the change. Only to people who bought later ...
EVNow
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Weird poll. What does this mean ?
If you have paid for FSD (purchase or subscription), did you receive it?
EVNow
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Look at all the threads OP starts (or for that matter posts).
We have no confirmation that they plan on honoring their original promise.
We only have agreement that the promise changed in Mid 2019.
Group A has one goal post
Group B has a different goal post
So one can interpret that as the goal post moving for EVERYONE, or interpreting it as two distinct goal post.
It doesn't really matter right now because the game that's on is Group B's goal post. The referee is currently playing trickster where he's running around saying "No rolling stops for YOU!", and throwing out the penalty flag.
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EVNow
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No you can't. Promise of what they "will" get for the money they are paying is on the order page, when you order. Later changes in the order page don't affect you - just like later changes in price.
Mark II
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In 2018 I bought a full FSD capable car, however I did not pay for the FSD "software" upgrade. Then in Dec 2021 I wanted to subscribe to FSD, however I had to pay $1000 to make my car FSD capable before I could enable the subscription. So here I am paying to add FSD hardware to a car that was sold as having FSD capable hardware when I bought it.
As for the subscription, I pay $100 a month for FSD, have a safety score ranging between 99 and 100 since beginning of January, yet I don't have FSD. So what am I paying for? I already had all the other features, such as summon, NOA, etc., because I payed for EAP in 2018.
In summary, I paid an additional $1000 to make my FSD capable car FSD capable, and I am paying another $100 month to drive very slowly, all the time, in the hopes that I eventually get what I am paying for!!
In summary, you didn’t Pay for FSD Beta, you applied for it.
In his case, he is simply throwing money away every month for nothing. He should cancel his subscription and wait for FSD beta to be released to all FSD subscribers.
Ask for a refund. Clearly you did not receive what you purchased and paid for. Probably Tesla says no and you need to initiate arbitration process.
Factually True, but promises are no guarantee of delivery.
The best you can do is get a refund, but why would you get a refund if the second goal post was still worth more than a potential refund?
The goalpost did change, and there isn't squat we can do about it short of lawyering up. Most of us won't go through that effort, and we'll simply accept the new goal post.
Most of us knew the whole thing was a fantasy.
That's what your heart is paying $99 month for.
What you're actually paying for is Traffic light and sign response.
Are you not getting $99/month enjoyment out of the chime on green? It might or might not be your green.
Are you not enjoying the phantom braking at yellow blinking lights?
Is it not a blissful experience wondering if your car will indeed detect that upcoming stop sign?
Are you not amusing yourself by telling your car that the light ahead is green and giving it the go-ahead to go?
Elon promises the subscription price will go up when FSD Beta has its general release which means you gotta check out traffic light response now when its cheap.
As to the FSD beta you'll get that eventually, but it will still be beta. So no worries on missing out on the beta action. There will still be plenty of bugs to report about into the ether.
This does make me wonder if anyone of us have a shrink. What would he or she even say to "I'm paying $100 a month to drive very slowly all the time". Would you even admit that to the shrink? This is a safe space so we understand what compels you. You're likely not alone, and thousands of people are doing the exact same thing with the same hope.
We get the need despite the financial nuttiness.
EVNow
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I still don't understand this weird logic.
Are you saying because Tesla sold "X" for "Y" dollars on 1/1/2019 - they can never ever change that order page ?
Unless they tell people who bought before the change that their sales order / contract is no longer valid, they aren't moving any goalposts.
ps : You can say they moved goalposts from investor perspective, but investors are actually happier that they changed the language.
In my opinion the goal posts have not changed. What was listed on the order page pre 3/2019 is still listed as a description of FSD on Autopilot | Tesla
If you paid for FSD Capability in 2022, you are also being promised L4 capability as listed below on this page
"enter park seek mode"
"your yoke airbag only needs an OTA update to work as horn. Will happen soon"
Im POSITIVE Elon makes this mess up as he goes along.
"your yoke airbag only needs an OTA update to work as horn. Will happen soon"
Im POSITIVE Elon makes this mess up as he goes along.
PLEASE let the FTC get him good with the deceptive marketing case. PLEASE
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