How noticeable is the acceleration boost from a dual motor long range to a performance Model 3?

[Apprunner]

It's interesting that there is such a big G difference but the acceleration difference of the LR AWD+ is directly in the middle of the LR AWD and Performance.

In theory, it takes more horsepower to get to 3s from 3.5s vs 4s to 3.5s. I don’t remember what the peak hp difference was for boosted vs performance though.

 

[Fresnel]

In theory, it takes more horsepower to get to 3s from 3.5s vs 4s to 3.5s. I don’t remember what the peak hp difference was for boosted vs performance though.

what ever the hp is the acceleration graph is directly in the middle.. which is interesting to me that the force of Gs isn't in the middle

 

[Ol'Blue]

I went with P as 99% of the driving I do day to day is below 110km/hr or 70 mph. I also bought an inventory car as I was originally debating a stealth when they were available on menu at the time. If I lived near a city like Chicago or something where everyone goes about 85mph on the highway regularly, that extra speed from a stand still wouldn’t be so relevant. All three cars (awd awd+ and performance) have pretty much identical acceleration up past 90 with everything between 70-90 being such a small difference anyone wouldn’t notice.

 

[Apprunner]

I went with P as 99% of the driving I do day to day is below 110km/hr or 70 mph. I also bought an inventory car as I was originally debating a stealth when they were available on menu at the time. If I lived near a city like Chicago or something where everyone goes about 85mph on the highway regularly, that extra speed from a stand still wouldn’t be so relevant. All three cars (awd awd+ and performance) have pretty much identical acceleration up past 90 with everything between 70-90 being such a small difference anyone wouldn’t notice.

Don't forget track mode. Even hard canyon driving will make the car battery heat up quick. Its a great option for performance enthusiasts.

 

[docprego]

1. what car do you drive now
2. how often do you go wide-open-throttle (w.o.t.)
3. how long do you maintain w.o.t.?
...
4. how often do you anticipate mashing this new car be it LR or Performance?

1. Alfa Romeo Giulia
2. ALL THE TIME
3. 0-60 mostly
4. On a regular basis

 

[Apprunner]

1. Alfa Romeo Giulia
2. ALL THE TIME
3. 0-60 mostly
4. On a regular basis

Get the performance. Seems like you’ll like it way more given the answers above.

 

[ModelNforNerd]

I doubt we will see Stealth cars being offered for $2K more than AWD cars now that the software boost for AWD cars is out. It would just discourage people from buying both the AWD and P3D+ cars and take sales away from both.

Which is why Tesla is due to just go ahead and make a Ludicrous-like OTA boost available for the P3D and Stealth.

 

[ModelNforNerd]

Verified. See my sig.

Red underline on screen, and under the badge on the rear of the car.

I opted to not have the badge installed. It's in my junk drawer at home. Red underline on the screen and app.



But by the time someone beside me figures that out......it's already too late ::evil laugh::

 

[Phlier]

I opted to not have the badge installed. It's in my junk drawer at home. Red underline on the screen and app.



But by the time someone beside me figures that out......it's already too late ::evil laugh::

I didn't have that option, as it was already on the car.

 

[ModelNforNerd]

I didn't have that option, as it was already on the car.

Ah, I took delivery of an early-run 2018 Stealth. They were moving them so fast, they didn't even have the badges on the assembly line. It was a delivery center/mobile ranger-installed option in that era.

 

[LowBattery]

I didn't have that option, as it was already on the car.

De-badging is a fairly simple process if you are interested. Heat the area with a hair dryer or heat gun, work some floss or fishing line under the badge, saw away at the adhesive until the badge is off, and clean up any remaining adhesive with Goo-Gone. Abstract Ocean has a video covering how to remove the "T" logo.
Tesla Performance Emblem (2nd Gen)

 

[Zextraterrestrial]

Thank you.


So, if one were looking on the Tesla site at an otherwise typical used Dual Motor Long Range (18" wheels, no spoiler, etc), then an underlined badge rear Dual Motor badge would be a good indicator of a P Stealth.

not sure how the P3 compares to a non P3 but my P85 is really really slow in comparison.
definitely need to check the screen...this is mine before the letters came off a couple of days later when I washer her. they peel off pretty easy

 

[Knightshade]

not sure how the P3 compares to a non P3 but my P85 is really really slow in comparison.

A P85 is slower even compared to a non-boosted AWD these days (roughly 4.2 vs 3.9 0-60)

The P85D however is within .1 of a P3 (3.1 vs 3.0) and a P85D with ludicrous is slightly quicker than a P3 (2.8 vs 3.0)

The AWD+ being right in the middle at 3.5

Anyway this puts the P3 at roughly the 5th quickest Tesla ever made to 60, and the AWD+ in 9th place


P100D (2.28), Model S P90D-L (2.8), Model S P85D-L(2.8), Model X P100D

Model 3 Performance (3.0)

Model S P90D and P85D (without ludicrous) (3.1)
Model X P90D (3.2)

Model 3 LR AWD+ (3.5)

After that I think there's only the non-P versions of the S100D and S90D (3.6 and 3.75) before we get to the Model 3 LR AWD at 3.9

 

[Fresnel]

Anyway this puts the P3 at roughly the 5th quickest Tesla ever made to 60, and the AWD+ in 9th place
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Damn. When you put it that way the P3 doesn't seem fast at all.

 

[ModelNforNerd]

yea, but now look into how much money you'd have to spend in the ICE world to beat the 5th fastest Tesla.

 

[D3xDt3Reaction]

yea, but now look into how much money you'd have to spend in the ICE world to beat the 5th fastest Tesla.

Or even in the Tesla world.

 

[ModelNforNerd]

Or even in the Tesla world.

Very true. If you're just trying to jump from 5th fastest (P3D) to 4th (XP100D), that's a $42,700 jump. (Brand new on both, no FSD, since that has no bearing on performance).

The bargains in this thought exercise are the SP90D-L and SP85D-L. Cheapest 85 on ev-cpo.com right now is $48,400. But you'd be giving up things like AP hardware level, charging speed, and range.

Cheapest 90 is $57,800.

So yes, you can get some Teslas that are faster straight-line than a Model 3, but you have to be willing to sacrifice some things. It's a matter of what you value.

For me......I think the P3D is that "sweet spot" of range, tech, charging speed, and acceleration.

 

[Phlier]

For me......I think the P3D is that "sweet spot" of range, tech, charging speed, and acceleration.

Yup, agreed. It'll at least hold me over until my three motor Cybertruck gets delivered.

 

[Apprunner]

Very true. If you're just trying to jump from 5th fastest (P3D) to 4th (XP100D), that's a $42,700 jump. (Brand new on both, no FSD, since that has no bearing on performance).

The bargains in this thought exercise are the SP90D-L and SP85D-L. Cheapest 85 on ev-cpo.com right now is $48,400. But you'd be giving up things like AP hardware level, charging speed, and range.

Cheapest 90 is $57,800.

So yes, you can get some Teslas that are faster straight-line than a Model 3, but you have to be willing to sacrifice some things. It's a matter of what you value.

For me......I think the P3D is that "sweet spot" of range, tech, charging speed, and acceleration.

The handling on the Model S is uninspiring at best. not something i'd like to daily to be honest. What really attracted me to the Model 3 was the simplicity of the car itself and insurance is pretty reasonable for it.

 

[ModelNforNerd]

Yup, agreed. It'll at least hold me over until my three motor Cybertruck gets delivered.

We've decided after much consternation, that I get to keep my Stealthy 3, and my wife will be making the leap from a Chevy Colorado to the Cybertruck. I keep dropping hints that she needs tri-motor. Not sure how much headway I'm making. She seems kinda set on Dual for now.

I need someone to get a hold of a Tri-motor and bring it to the drag strip so I can show her.........