How would you prefer to pay for Supercharging?

[SageBrush]

ahhh - I just looked at my "watched threads" - did no know I was collecting them. This answered my Q perfectly. Thanks

Another useful tidbit: If you stare at Ohmman long enough, he will blink first.

Perhaps a Pyrrhic victory, but this is the internet.

 

[AZ Desert Driver]

Another useful tidbit: If you stare at Ohmman long enough, he will blink first.

Perhaps a Pyrrhic victory, but this is the internet.

I noticed that too about two weeks go. Asked if he could help me make my Conductor wings flap.

 

[electracity]

They could start installing Model 3 designated chargers with credit card readers. Sell the electricity for cost plus say 20% to pay for the install. But that is expensive with no guarantee they will be used.

I favor a coin slot. I don't know what to do with coins anymore.

If they do a coin slot, for activation I want one of those pull handles like on old cigarette machines.

 

[Thierry]

For me free ou unfree supercharging for the model 3 is not a problem. Why ?
Because I've a charger at home and my daily travels are under 150 kms.That's why I prefer to pay a refill on a supercharger if I have a longer journey to make.

 

[JeffK]

I favor a coin slot. I don't know what to do with coins anymore.

If they do a coin slot, for activation I want one of those pull handles like on old cigarette machines.

I haven't seen or used a coin in years.

 

[electracity]

I haven't seen or used a coin in years.

I was just teasing the guy suggesting a credit card reader on superchargers.

 

[nwdiver]

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I haven't seen or used a coin in years.

What's a coin?

 

[SageBrush]

I favor a coin slot. I don't know what to do with coins anymore.

If they do a coin slot, for activation I want one of those pull handles like on old cigarette machines.

I think you are on to something here -- make it a one-armed bandit like a casino.

Most get a kWh, but the lucky ones get a full charge. Then Tesla will not run afoul of utility regulations.

 

[deonb]

Why did this post get moderated to the other thread?

Model 3 Supercharging Capable Discussion

It was completely a response to this poll, and a reply to:
How would you prefer to pay for Supercharging?

 

[1208]

I would only use it for long trips so would prefer to pay per charge.

I think this would deter hoggers. If I had purchased the free for life option I would feel like wanting to charge more often at superchargers as I already paid for it.

 

[ohmman]

Why did this post get moderated to the other thread?

Model 3 Supercharging Capable Discussion

It was completely a response to this poll, and a reply to:
How would you prefer to pay for Supercharging?

Sorry. Baby and bathwater, and all that. The post to which you replied should have been moved, which made it tough. I've returned it to its rightful place in this thread. Doing my best over here.

 

[MiamiNole]

I think you are on to something here -- make it a one-armed bandit like a casino.

Most get a kWh, but the lucky ones get a full charge. Then Tesla will not run afoul of utility regulations.

Are you allowed to chain smoke while sitting at a supercharger?

 

[Electroman]

Folks somehow think billing at the point of usage is going to be failure point. Not at all. Think of how Apple does. You save your CC with Tesla, and the billing is done after the fact based on the VIN that the supercharger sends to the mother station. Easy peasy.

Also on the pre-paid model, my biggest concern is cheap-skates camping on the supercharger station every other day to fill up their tank because, "I paid for it, I have every right to suck it up" philosophy

 

[2018 Steve]

Our Model 3 will be used most of the time within a 75 mile radius from our home. Therefore, we will not be using a supercharger very often so would prefer to pay at the SC station when needed. Currently the closets one is 15 miles away.

 

[McHoffa]

I answered up front, but I might actually prefer a per year model. That way if I didn't need it I wouldn't pay, but then I could add a year if we planned to travel that year. That would at least work out better for a second car.

 

[deonb]

Are you allowed to chain smoke while sitting at a supercharger?

Ahh. My misspent youth...

Good times. Good times.

 

[MSullivan]

I think that at $2000 Supercharging is a huge revenue generator. Nobody uses $2000 worth of electricity. If you pay as you go then you would probably pay a few hundred dollars.
Of course for $2000 you are making your car capable of driving cross country. If they don't offer pay as you go it would be a long drive from coast to coast.

 

[JeffK]

... Nobody uses $2000 worth of electricity.
... Of course for $2000 you are making your car capable of driving cross country.

This is saying that the the base model is hardly capable of driving across the country and it also says that $2000 is too much to charge.
That's basically like saying we'll sell you a car at price $X but the wheels will cost extra.
I'm being overly dramatic of course, but seriously $2000 is way too much to charge, it should either be in the base price or it should be an amount easily affordable by the target audience. Otherwise tell people the car is $37,000 base and you have the option to remove supercharging for a $2000 credit towards the purchase if you didn't want it.

I don't think anyone would complain if it were only $500.

 

[pinski]

This is saying that the the base model is hardly capable of driving across the country and it also says that $2000 is too much to charge.
That's basically like saying we'll sell you a car at price $X but the wheels will cost extra.
I'm being overly dramatic of course, but seriously $2000 is way too much to charge, it should either be in the base price or it should be an amount easily affordable by the target audience. Otherwise tell people the car is $37,000 base and you have the option to remove supercharging for a $2000 credit towards the purchase if you didn't want it.

I don't think anyone would complain if it were only $500.

I agree, but realize that many will argue that your $2000 also is paying for constructing and maintaining the supercharger infrastructure instead of just using that equivalent in electricity.

 

[JeffK]

I agree, but realize that many will argue that your $2000 also is paying for constructing and maintaining the supercharger infrastructure instead of just using that equivalent in electricity.

Ok, let's consider that and do some math.

It's been noted that the average supercharging station (not charge point) costs less than $300K and there are currently 632 stations as of today. That's under $200 million dollars to build them over the course of a few years (probably way less to maintain them as Tesla has stated it's a near negligible amount compared to revenue).

Let's consider a measly $500 charge per Model 3. $500 * 400,000 cars per year = $200 million (per year)

With $200 million you could double the current network.

By 2020 Elon mentioned they might be doing around 1 million cars per year. So even at $500 it's plenty of money to not only maintain but vastly expand the supercharger network with money left over for service centers, etc.