Utter bollocks!!! Give me one logical explanation for why buyers are not buying into this plummet? Tesla deserves to be worth 10-20 billion, yet it can barly hold 3. My head can't handle this!! I still want an explanation for why the stock rallied for 1 week straight to near 52 week high, then collapsed. At this level,we have broken the 200 day!! WTH!! Does the term sold out through 2014 mean nothing? I hate you guys!!, completely useless.
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What answer would make you happy? Tell us and we'll say it. Most of the financial "experts" didn't see the financial crisis from a few years ago coming and you want answers here? Please sell your position in the stock. This was suggested at 34 and you refused to sell saying you'd never sell. If that's the case then why does the short term matter at all? Bet long and take a break from all this.
How have you been useful to us? Your analysis about Tesla hitting 100 soon seems to be off the mark. If people were talking your financial advice they'd be out a lot of money. Why do you start an investment column on Seeking Alpha? That seems to be he place for this kind of thing.
How have you been useful to us? Your analysis about Tesla hitting 100 soon seems to be off the mark. If people were talking your financial advice they'd be out a lot of money. Why do you start an investment column on Seeking Alpha? That seems to be he place for this kind of thing.
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
And I'd like a cheeseburger.
Harsh. We're a free service. You get what you pay for.
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Seriously, not sure why you've decided that this forum owes you answers. You're welcome to join the conversation. We don't do well with demands.
You guys post useless answers that can only be interpreted as sarcastic, or intentionally unless. Either that or you choose to not post anything useful. I have a hard time believing no-one here has any clue what is triggering this insane movement/ the insane short interest. Any time he stock has dropped this much it has been because of something being horribly wrong, some institutionn downgrading the stock, or some technical problem!? The answer that most people couldn't predict the housing bubble isn't an answer. Doesn't explain why the stock is collapsing for no reason. If it doesn't jump tomorrow, I am going to be pissed. Selling here would be stupid, since 26 has to be the bottom, since I see it going to 22 as impossible. even then, there is no point, utter crapnthat good news, and exceeding expectations seems to do nothing!!, WTF!!, I refuse to sell at a 15-20% loss! Doesn't change he fact I'll be pissed if it gets worse without any logical cause! I just saw something about Fidelity selling its position? Is this right? wTH? Is this right? Someone shoot me now!!
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NigelM
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@Iamthecaliflower - please watch your language. And insulting forum members is not going to win you any sort of answers.
Today more people decided to sell than to buy. I haven't had a chance to interview them all, and also I haven't interviewed all others who decided today was not going to be the day they would buy TSLA.
That's really all there is to it. I can also come up with a dozen theories backing this up, but rest assured they are all worthless.
In this case I would hold on, but sometimes it's better to sell at a 20% loss than to sell at a 50% loss. I know, I've been there.
As others have said: welcome to the stock market!
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
I think the mistake is that Cali expects answers. This is a discussion, not Q&A. No one here is the final answer on anything happening in the market.
Cali, again (for probably the umpteenth time), you're welcome to join the discussion. But railing at us because you don't like what the market is doing will likely result in you being banned. It's tiresome to constantly see your hissy fits on my screen.
Cali, again (for probably the umpteenth time), you're welcome to join the discussion. But railing at us because you don't like what the market is doing will likely result in you being banned. It's tiresome to constantly see your hissy fits on my screen.
I didn't attack anyone, nor did I mention anyone in particular. I simply asked the question ; What the hell happened today? Is there any validity to saying Fidelity is liquidating their position? I don't like being censored and having my post deleted. I don't believe I said anything wrong, or incorrect. I may use strong language,but never anything that directly attacks anyone or which says anything that is unreasonable or insinuating. Thats how I speak about anything - in real life or on a forum. I simply don't like stupid, useless answers! Im a no nonsense kind of person. I simply ask this forum of people who are supposed to be much more educated then I (at least I hope you are) what the hell is causing this!! I don't like vague answers that shine with a glimmer or hope, and do nothing but speak of a belief. This movement freaks me the hell out. I won't sell here because doing so woud be stupid!! I have a hard time believing no-one has any ideas. The response that there are simply more sellers then buyers today is not really an answer. I am hoping someone has some educated insight into this. I'm not looking for the result of a survey, simply an educated explanation by someone that can honestly say their views are based on more then hope. I have read a handful of such comments from people on this forum before. These people know who they are, and I hope they will respond.
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bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
Your posts weren't deleted. They were moved. Follow the link.
Perhaps calling everyone useless and saying you hate everyone crossed the line. You expect crisp answers about the stock market. Not. Going. To. Happen. It's the stock market.
Perhaps calling everyone useless and saying you hate everyone crossed the line. You expect crisp answers about the stock market. Not. Going. To. Happen. It's the stock market.
Force of habit to say stupid. Im sorry if i offended you. My definition of stupid is anything that is exceedingly obvious that is being repeated as though it is some sort of brilliant insight. I don't like to engage in pointless discussion, especially when I m pissed. I am an angry person. I won't lie about this. Doesn't change the fact that my attitude is valid. I'm not a raging lunatic, I just don't like redundancy, or meangingless discussion that doesn't really say anything, especially when im seeking a real useful answer. So long as there are a handful of people parading themselves as advocating the short case, (these people who need not be named,) it makes me angry that very few longs have updated their reasoning and thoughts on the future of tesla.
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NigelM
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^ You have to do your own homework. The reality is that one person's gain is usually another's loss and rarely do most people share their trading secrets. TMC members are happy to muse and discuss, and maybe even give a few tips here and there as we'd all like to see TSLA going up.....but (IMO at least) this is not a investment group where we are making joint decisions. We are all responsible for our own decisions and many people will generously share their experience with you....Just address things in a less angry way and you'll likely get more reasonable feedback.
It's a volatile stock which I buy into when it drops, as opposed to complaining. So I bought more stock today. You can try to understand it, get used to it and then you can make money from it. Were you around for the stock bubble in 2000? It's a complex algorithm.
NigelM
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No, you simply attacked everyone:
Your posts were not censored or deleted. They were moved to a location where they will not derail the discussion on the Investor's thread.
I know at least one member took offense because he reported your post for inappropriate language. Frankly I agree with him. There's nothing wrong with the substantial content of your message. Tone it down and no one's going to object.
That was a warning shot across the bow. Rude behavior is not appreciated nor tolerated on these forums.
I would think it's pretty obvious. There are people out there who do not share our views that Tesla will be very successful, or perhaps simply think that's a highly risky investment - which is probably is. There are a whole list of reasons why Tesla could still fail.
I like to play blackjack at the casinos. I can't tell you the number of times I've had ten or eleven, doubled down with the dealer showing a six, and had the dealer still beat me. It's gambling. The Stock Market is gambling. There is no sure thing. I'd put Tesla as a great bet. I have put money where my mouth is and bought, for me, a large amount of stock. I feel about Tesla the way I would holding a 20 against the dealer showing a 6. TANSTAAFL also applies. It looks like it will do a positive jump tomorrow with the number of people choosing to buy in. As others have said - if you aren't willing to lose your money, don't bet.
Everything in my gut says Tesla is doing things as right as they can. Is it perfect? Of course not. Is it better than the average company? I'd say emphatically YES. Of course that's just my opinion. Personally I wish I'd sold a couple weeks ago at 35/36 and bought back in today. Then I'd have about 20% more stock than I had. But I didn't. That's also why it's gambling...
Everything in my gut says Tesla is doing things as right as they can. Is it perfect? Of course not. Is it better than the average company? I'd say emphatically YES. Of course that's just my opinion. Personally I wish I'd sold a couple weeks ago at 35/36 and bought back in today. Then I'd have about 20% more stock than I had. But I didn't. That's also why it's gambling...
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I like this trading range - made some money here. I agree with Iamthecaliflower that Tesla's worth 10B, easy (based on next year's earnings), but there will not be any serious appreciation until profits are reported (excluding major announcement i.e. $1B powertrain deal). "Investors" are becoming impatient based on Tesla's 2013 guidance, simply put.. and there is a lot of downward force in the price. I believe we'll see upper $22 again sometime before the next call. May as well ride the wave in and out until then.
stopcrazypp
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Please keep in mind this is not an investor's forum and a large number of commenters here don't even own any TSLA stock. You shouldn't come here expecting anyone to be able to answer your investment questions or give you great investment advice. And I'm not surprised to see drops when there's a non-news period for TSLA. TSLA has lots of shorters.
Cali... I pulled another 10k out of mutual funds for Tesla.. I believe.
and the price is good ( not as good as the 25$ but pretty damn good this far in the game)
Have you driven an S yet?
It may calm you down some.
very peaceful
even with squealing people in the back I didn't even notice the radio was on (my wife had to tell me)
I planned on only getting a little Tsla but...
I'm sorry, they have the **** together.
the current price is begging me....
and the price is good ( not as good as the 25$ but pretty damn good this far in the game)
Have you driven an S yet?
It may calm you down some.
very peaceful
even with squealing people in the back I didn't even notice the radio was on (my wife had to tell me)
I planned on only getting a little Tsla but...
I'm sorry, they have the **** together.
the current price is begging me....
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