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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Drop the N and add a T but careful of the order or else sounds super inappropriate.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I use both Merrill and Webull. I had no issues at all with either. I really like Webull, visually speaking, especially its Level 2 order book.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Alright, two of you corrected me so I stand corrected. ;)
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Right. I take it to mean they have to sell and repurchase and cannot simply memo the shares internally to a different fund inside their organization.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Is this all Internal xfer of holding between funds prohibited according to Gary B. https://twitter.com/garyblack00/status/1339294115310276610?s=19
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Like Berkshire disclosing TSLA position maybe ??... When's their next 13F again?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Up 3% on lowish vol. Someone trying to front-run the front-run.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    With so much conjecture on the number of shares being front-runned, I thought I'd take a shot at it: My guess is about 36M shares are being front-runned since S&P announcement, which I've estimated entirely and anecdotally from Dec.9 +$5B liquidity correlating to -7.5% drop in share price...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Agreed that shares held by front runners will generally satisfy demand by funds. But what's to say front runners will sell (to those funds), majoritively, at Friday's market close?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How could funds majorily buy this much at Fri close? Doesn't seem like there'd be nearly enough liquidity for market order. Accumulate until close or do they get shares OTC?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    At least they know what day Christmas is on.
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    Probabilities of SP increases until Dec 31

    I watched the Jan 15 1000 calls go from $7.4 to $11 on a $22 upward run of the sp yesterday, representing a 48% increase in premium in a matter of minutes. The issue with options is that the goal posts move much and often, via the flexible and indeterminate IV component, which dramatically...
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    In 10 years, the only people that might care are US customers who might have bought shares with the extra tax benefit. At net present value, that could be a $30,000 difference.
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    Indeed. Monday could be a whipsaw session amid lingering question of M3 deliveries in Q2. Now if we get even one unit greater than 30k confirmed, new buyers will flood in and shorts will stomp and claw over each other to get out. I have a hunch figures may post monday afternoon. If numbers...
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    Nice. What's your exit strategy?
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    . I anticipate a lot of resistance at 380-390. If we break that, some chartists think 429 is next. For example
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    You're probably right. Elon's not pulling 24/7 for 1k of icing on the cake. My guess is 5k, by the skin of his teeth. But, what about 5k plus guidance? I mean, we are at the steepest part of the S curve. If we're indeed at 5k, how long did that take to get to from 3500? Like 2 weeks? 5k...
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    . I'm not sure either, not because if the catalyst, but because of the mechanics that drive a squeeze. If there are no (net) sellers and shorts are forced to become buyers, who knows what will happen. Also consider the possibility of there being some pent up buying, due to the seemingly...
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    Given the lack of context, there can only be one.
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    Elon Musk on Twitter And it's not a re-tweet. I think it's worth at least 20 points next market open.
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    This together with "... burn of the century" and "... position explodes" could be interpreted as social media hyperbole, but I see Elon has placed these words very intentionally. His past use of "next level" to describe semi specs during the unveil, and rockets on the performance next gen...
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    TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

    You do realize there's no difference between averaging up and averaging down? You get the same average.
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    Newbie Options Trading

    I bought some OTM $300 March 14s before the Q3 report which I am down 80% on. My thinking was that we'd be even or better on the price after the call, and that we'd end up ITM or close by Feb Q4 call. I certainly wasn't anticipating a severe sell off so I have zero hedge on these options. I...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Indeed, this forum is ahead of all others. Though, we've been late to the dinner table many times. Could a rumor of an impending event tare down the stock to major suport befor the news cycle pounds it down even further?
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Can we rule out a major negative event? (ie. Widespread recall, elon not well, etc..). In other words, could the tide be receeding before a tidal wave?
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    Iamthecaliflower

    I like this trading range - made some money here. I agree with Iamthecaliflower that Tesla's worth 10B, easy (based on next year's earnings), but there will not be any serious appreciation until profits are reported (excluding major announcement i.e. $1B powertrain deal). "Investors" are...