There are a couple of bills that would provide credits/rebates. The Clean Energy for America Act would provide up to $10,000 in rebates, not credits, for a Tesla. The Green Act would extend the current tax credit to, I think, 600,000 cars for a $7,000 rebate. Who knows which, what, or any may eventually come to pass but there's a reasonable chance there could be something by the end of the year. Or not.What tax rebates?
I tend to agree with you, but the truth is nobody knows. Frankly, even GM can't be pulling for them now, because if Tesla really can release a $25K car in 2023 that's eligible for a $10K point of sale rebate it's literally game over.The current infrastructure bill being advanced in the Senate does not include tax rebates for Tesla. Neither the "Clean Energy for America Act" nor the "Green Act" has sufficient votes to pass in the senate. Very wishful thinking that tax rebates can pass for Tesla.
Q2 earning call noted that they are running into engineering issue with the 4680 and stated it's not a matter of if but when. I feel if there's one company in the world that can figure it out, it will be Tesla.
Yeah I see your point - it doesn't make sense to have the higher ranges on the "lower end" cars, but if we look at the long range model 3 compared to the model S at the time, it does seem like Tesla offered a little more range to the 3, even at the lower cost.Can't imagine this happening before the S and X get 500 mile range.
Tesla is going after market share and competitors' throats by addressing additional market segments, not by price reduction.Personally I disagree. I think Tesla will use the cost advantage to claim market share. I do think prices will remain the same until production ramps up, but by the end of 2022 when Berlin and Texas are online cranking at 100% and there's some legitimate competition to the current state of vehicles I think Tesla will use their cost advantage to crush Ford and GM.
Regardless, I agree, if you can, buy now. But there may be people that can't buy twice who might be better off waiting a year because they stand to get a lot more car, and potentially for less money depending on pricing and credits.
Exactly. Range may be an important number for new buyers/owners, but for me, I'm much more interested in expansion of the charging infrastructure to underserved areas, and just expansion in general to ensure minimal wait times. Only a few people can drive over 7 hours (500 mile range using 65 mph average) and if you're going to stop every 2 - 3 hours like me (and maybe many people), might as well charge up at the same time. And since one of the major selling points for Tesla right now is the Supercharger network, opening that up to other EV's means we will need a large expansion of that network.When I first became a Tesla owner in June 2020, I was sure I needed as much range as possible - 316 was barely enough. 15 months later, I've never needed over 200 miles of range. On the rare occasion I'd ever go over 250 miles without a stop, there are many superchargers, or L2 chargers at various destinations.
I was holding out for the rebates/credits but realized that it’s probably not coming anytime soon. Especially after seeing prices go up on the Y. I just decided to to buy now and lock in a price. Seems like by the time any tax credits come into play the price increases may just wipe out any savings.The current infrastructure bill being advanced in the Senate does not include tax rebates for Tesla. Neither the "Clean Energy for America Act" nor the "Green Act" has sufficient votes to pass in the senate. Very wishful thinking that tax rebates can pass for Tesla.
To me range is KING. It's more than just range though. Higher range numbers don't just give you further drive distance. It allows you to be easier on the battery. You have a better chance of hovering around the 50% range. The added range should also give you more options to conduct A/C charging. This in turn is known to be easier on the battery.When I first became a Tesla owner in June 2020, I was sure I needed as much range as possible - 316 was barely enough. 15 months later, I've never needed over 200 miles of range. On the rare occasion I'd ever go over 250 miles without a stop, there are many superchargers, or L2 chargers at various destinations.
I'd pay a little bit more for 500 miles of range, but not 10k more. I suspect many are in the same boat.
I see. S and X from 20K per quarter last year to 25K per quarter. Versus 3 and Y going from 200K per last quarter to 250K per quarter and more.Perhaps, but they have capacity right now for 100k of them - meaning they will make a more substantial contribution. And perhaps more when Austin opens.