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It’s not poor AP it’s poor emergency braking...

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No, it's clearly due to limitations with existing Adaptive Cruise control systems that most manufactures have.

Why Tesla's Autopilot Can't See a Stopped Firetruck

The only difference with a Tesla is it always ends up in the news when something happens.

Now that doesn't mean there can't be improvements to the AEB system in the Tesla. At least to the point where it matches the capabilities of the Subaru Eyesight system.
 
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No, it's clearly due to limitations with existing Adaptive Cruise control systems that most manufactures have.

Why Tesla's Autopilot Can't See a Stopped Firetruck

The only difference with a Tesla is it always ends up in the news when something happens.

Now that doesn't mean there can't be improvements to the AEB system in the Tesla. At least to the point where it matches the capabilities of the Subaru Eyesight system.
Note that even EyeSight has its limits, and I can't honestly determine whether its limits are better or worse than the current AP.



From a 2017 user manual: Subaru Outback Manuals: 2017 Outback EyeSight® Driving Assist System



Averts collision or reduces damage when speed differential with preceding vehicle is around 50 km/h or less
Follows preceding vehicle at a set distance in any speed range up to 120 km/h on expressways and other vehicle-only roads.
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    approximately 50 km/h (or 35 km/h in the case of pedestrians). Even when the speed differential does not exceed around 50 km/h (35 km/h in the case of pedestrians), in some circumstances the system may be unable to avoid a collision, or pre-collision braking may not activate.




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No, it's clearly due to limitations with existing Adaptive Cruise control systems that most manufactures have.

Why Tesla's Autopilot Can't See a Stopped Firetruck

The only difference with a Tesla is it always ends up in the news when something happens.

Now that doesn't mean there can't be improvements to the AEB system in the Tesla. At least to the point where it matches the capabilities of the Subaru Eyesight system.


How about this YouTube video? Seems to "prove" a Tesla will stop for some stationary objects?

 
The only difference with a Tesla is it always ends up in the news when something happens.
Tesla sprung autopilot on the world rather suddenly and someone died early on which led to this unfortunately. Whether he was misusing the feature or not is irrelevant to the news as they know so many people are terrified of autonomous anything, so it got lots of press. Anytime it happens it will as the news feeds on fear. People will stay tuned if they're terrified. Sad.
 
How about this YouTube video? Seems to "prove" a Tesla will stop for some stationary objects?


Fun vid and props to the guys that done it - but dangerous imho.

Dangerous because it demonstrates AP performing beyond it's Tesla stated abilities.

That AP performs beyond expectation is great and is just added safety and an indication of things to come in future.
But I would suggest that the reason Tesla have not officially announced this capability is that they do not consider it reliable as yet.

So - please do not rely on AP to detect objects outside Tesla stated capability,
currently Tesla do not claim avoidance of push bikes, people and animals for example.
 
First, here's a general point: many of the auto OEMs describe their adaptive cruise control function ("ACC", called "Traffic Aware Cruise Control" or "TACC" by Tesla) separately from their forward collision warning ("FCW") and automatic emergency braking ("AEB") functions. It seems like splitting hairs, but it is FCW and AEB that respond to stopped vehicles, by design. The reason for the cautions that ACC will not is probably for cases in which FCW &/or AEB can be disabled by the driver, but who might engage ACC anyway. In that case, the caution that ACC does not respond to stopped vehicles is necessary to keep drivers from thinking that it does by itself (i.e., rather than FCW & AEB even when ACC is active).

Second, here's a specific point: assuming the Tesla vehicle that struck the fire truck had at least software 8.0, then it was handling stopped vehicles differently than any of the examples of crashes into stopped vehicles or stationary obstructions by Teslas with pre-8.0 software, either before September 2016 or by vehicles after that that did not upgrade to software 8.0 or later versions. As Tesla explained here Upgrading Autopilot: Seeing the World in Radar , "fleet learning for radar" software changes were made to better handle stopped vehicles and stationary obstructions.

Third, here's a reminder: Tesla's FCW & AEB are safety features standard in vehicles starting with those having radar, but Autopilot (which is Autosteer for steering with TACC for maintaining space behind a vehicle being followed) is a paid upgrade. Each of those named features is responsible for different tasks, but very often "Autopilot" is used by the press and consumers to refer to any of them. This by itself can lead to much confusion when people debate what a Tesla vehicle should, could, or did do. Referring to "Tesla technology" in a particular vehicle with identified hardware version (1, 2, or 2.5), software version, and purchased options would avoid much confusion. Unfortunately, for people not willing to understand those distinctions, "Autopilot" will no doubt continue to be the catch-all name for any and all driving-assistance/autonomous-driving technology in any Tesla vehicle. It's a failure to take Einstein's advice: "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
 
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In Tesla vehicles, FCW and AEB are activated every time the vehicle is started. Either or both can be deactivated during a particular trip, but then re-activate at the start of the next trip. So by default both are active. As for limitation, I have not seen tests reported for Tesla, but see my two related posts about AEB testing here AEB Won’t Prevent an Accident (posts #37 & #38).