Jolt EV charging network

[meloccom]

I have written to both many local councils, and state and federal members of parliament regarding the huge gap in chargers within many local councils in the west of Victoria and today I received this attached to a letter I have received from one Federal MP (it doesnt state who owns the charger)

Electric vehicles getting a positive charge

Two free electric vehicle charging stations have been installed at Cobblebank Indoor Stadium, providing residents and visitors with a convenient location to recharge their cars in within the City of Melton.

www.melton.vic.gov.au

PlugShare shows both AC and DC chargers as belonging to the ChargeFox network.

 

[moa999]

New Jolt app launched.. Pins on map have quite a different look.

Note on Android I had to delete/uninstall the old app then re-install to get it working.
Listed as 4.0.1 (8 May 2023)

 

[lazydesi]

New Jolt app launched.. Pins on map have quite a different look.

Note on Android I had to delete/uninstall the old app then re-install to get it working.
Listed as 4.0.1 (8 May 2023)

Yes, if the charger is occupied it shows black.

 

[AussieOwner]

PlugShare shows both AC and DC chargers as belonging to the ChargeFox network.

Both chargers were broken a week after I noticed they exist.
Typical.

 

[Sir Surfalot]

Proposal from Northern Beaches (Sydney) Council for 8 new Jolt charging sites. Information page linked from this week’s council newsletter: Electric vehicle charging stations - proposed locations June 2023

 

[moa999]

Jolt has seemingly opened its first charger in Qld a week ago.

Per Plugshare Marketplace East, Camp Hill.
Same pricing as the other AU sites, but seemingly no advertising.

Also recent opening of a Hornsby Council charger making for another Sydney cluster.

And as I posted in the ACT thread, looks like Jolt is no longer involved in the ACT Govt rollout.

 

[B3AU]

Today's app update brings membership tiers as part of 'JOLT PLUS'

JOLT PLUS is JOLT’s series of flagship memberships that provides Australian customers with savings across electric vehicle charging. On our two new memberships, you get more energy allowance each session for a fixed monthly fee.

There are three memberships on offer

1. Free - users get 7kWh free energy daily
2. Flex - for $9.99 per month users get 10kWh free energy daily
3. Ultimate - for $69.99 per month users get unlimited energy.

https://support.joltcharge.com/hc/en-au/articles/16186806273431-What-is-JOLT-PLUS-

 

[Vostok]

Today's app update brings membership tiers as part of 'JOLT PLUS'

• Ultimate - for $69.99 per month users get unlimited energy.

With 25 kW DC charging, to get the average price of your electricity below, say, 30c/kWh, you‘d need to use Jolt for about 10 hours every single month. Don’t most Jolt sites have a 2 hour parking limit?

 

[cafz]

With 25 kW DC charging, to get the average price of your electricity below, say, 30c/kWh, you‘d need to use Jolt for about 10 hours every single month.

Which is probably reasonable for people that can't charge at home and are using a Jolt location as their regular charge up. My charge stats say I've done 480kWh in the last month.

 

[Futuretech]

Today's app update brings membership tiers as part of 'JOLT PLUS'

https://support.joltcharge.com/hc/en-au/articles/16186806273431-What-is-JOLT-PLUS-

it's gonna be subject to abuse unless they have some way of limiting it to 1 or 2 cars per user account.

Shared Jolt account anyone?

 

[Vostok]

it's gonna be subject to abuse unless they have some way of limiting it to 1 or 2 cars per user account.

Where is ISO 15118 when you need it…

 

[moa999]

Someone from Jolt seemingly reads this thread - see 3h.

Fair Use Policy

Charge your Electric Vehicle (EV) with JOLT charge. Find Electric Vehicle Charging Stations near you. Compatible with Tesla's and other electric vehicles.

jolt.com.au

 

[lazydesi]

2 new subscription plans coming

flex plan - $9.99 -10kw free daily

ultimate - $69.99 - unlimited free energy daily

 

[PC__LoadLetter]

Why on earth would using your car for a rideshare service be considered unreasonable?

 

[moa999]

Why on earth would using your car for a rideshare service be considered unreasonable?

Their station, their rules.

I'd imagine it's because of the free component.

 

[PC__LoadLetter]

Their station, their rules.

I'd imagine it's because of the free component.

They probably shouldn't be eligible to receive taxpayers money then.

 

[B3AU]

Why on earth would using your car for a rideshare service be considered unreasonable?

I'm sure the T&Cs for Tesla Supercharger membership are written as such to 'discourage' charging for rideshare usage.

A separate membership is needed for each Tesla Account, and each membership is limited to a maximum of five Supercharger charge sessions per day. Terms | Tesla Australia

Perhaps another option would be for JOLT to have another tier that has a capped number of sessions - like Tesla offers - rather than 'banning' rideshare outright?

 

[Vostok]

Why on earth would using your car for a rideshare service be considered unreasonable?

Because the usage profile of such users would be very very different to someone who is not providing a rideshare service. The economics of their plans would be based on a statistical model of expected usage, so that they actually make money on each plan rather than risk going out of business.

Same as insurance companies who ask whether your car is private use only or used for business. You might think “none of your business“ or “who cares” but it makes a difference because it changes the risk profile for the insurer, hence both the likelihood of a claim being made and the average size of claim.

They probably shouldn't be eligible to receive taxpayers money then.

In NSW at least, public monies are only ever used to subsidise the capital cost of establishing the station. Operational costs are entirely the responsibility of the network operator.

 

[cafz]

Why on earth would using your car for a rideshare service be considered unreasonable?

I can see why they don't want to support commercial operation with the subscription service - effectively you're reselling the power which they consider unreasonable.

Pay-per-use, however, should be fine for commercial use as far as I can see. This might have just been overlooked when they were writing the T&C.

They might also want to consider introducing a separate tier of subscription service for rideshare operators. Presumably there's a point at which they can make money there too, it'll just be a higher monthly charge.

 

[Quickst]

$70 per month for unlimited charging equivalent to about 2000km per month
Compared to home charging at 20c/kWh and assuming 65km per 11kW.
This is more for the full time Uber drivers