Garlan Garner
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I believe it is understandable. What could it hurt? If it doesn't hurt you....then leave it alone or help.
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Letter to Mr. Musk from a 1-day old outdated Model S owner
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- Elon Musk Tesla Inc.
Have to live with the pros and cons of Tesla being Tesla. OTA updates, constant improvements, no traditional model years is good for most people....except the people that had a new Tesla delivered juuuuuust before Elon comes out with a host of new upgrades for future Teslas.
One thing good about traditional model years....if you buy a brand new 201X vehicle right out the gate, you know it'll likely be around a year before your vehicle becomes obsolete. With a brand new Tesla? Obsolescence could be less than 24 hours away!
One thing good about traditional model years....if you buy a brand new 201X vehicle right out the gate, you know it'll likely be around a year before your vehicle becomes obsolete. With a brand new Tesla? Obsolescence could be less than 24 hours away!
Garlan Garner
Banned
I used to be surprised when I ran across people without a sympathetic heart.... now its dominating our society - like a disease.
Nope.
Homer: "Football in the groin" had a football in the groin.
Funny. Every. Time.
I guess I could blow smoke up his rear end and tell him he will get his wish but we are all adults here I assume so I feel no need to sugarcoat it. He is writing a letter that has been written many times before and after pretty much any change. Not trying to be rude but at the same time I feel like he is just wasting his energy/time and frankly a few of his proposals are ridiculous IMO.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Absolutely. You are absolutely correct.
And I again...I sympathize with those who are upset.
aesculus
Still Trying to Figure This All Out
Sage advice. In the old days it was always cheaper to purchase, but with Tesla, its seems it's always cheaper to lease, since updates really drop the valuation on the preceding cars more than interest rate ever could.
Garlan Garner
Banned
I understand that the main reason I disagree with you is because of behavior that I have adopted and adhered to in my life.
If you don't have anything good to say - don't say anything.
What's a waste of time to me is discouraging people in that their efforts are a waste of time. People change their minds based on the last person that voiced their opinion....along with the weight of everyone else who voiced that same opinion in the past.
jeepn30
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Hmm....the talk of autopilot 2.0 has been going on for how long now? Like it was going to be a big surprise or something....I am buying a 2013 CPO because the car is amazing. I'm a tech whore just as much as anybody else, but am not going to be mad because of this new revelation I would miss out on. Tesla is out there to change the world, and so far they have done just that. Talking about devaluation is ridiculous because you're talking about a car, not your investment portfolio. Cars depreciate, just a fact of life. And just when should Elon come out with autopilot 2.0 and not make anybody mad that just missed it? Fact is that he has to do it sometime, and will inevitably make someone mad they "missed" out. If you think your car is obsolete now, feel free and look at what the competition and realize that they are waay ahead of the game.
What if we think v8 is a downgrade and not upgrade and have the love with constantly x ing out of update screen and have a small yellow alert and top right?
And be afraid to service it in case a tech installs v8?!
Garlan Garner
Banned
Wahh Wahh. We ( African americans) can't vote....lets just let it go.
Wahh Wahh We (women) can't vote...lets just let it go its been this way forever.
Wahh Wahh We (women) don't have equal pay.....Its a waste of time saying anything about it.
Wahh Wahh We will always be slaves because its been that way forever......lets not upset the apple cart.
Wahh Wahh
No way. ALWAYS speak up in a respectful way for what you want. Ignore those who tell you its a waste of time. That's what I've learned in life.
Garlan Garner
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Are there any options that a 1 day purchaser has that is backed by government or local government?
I honestly cannot believe this comparison is even being attempted.
hmmm
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I have a 1.0 car and while I understand the frustration and the financial impact due to increased depreciation, I am totally comfortable with my situation. Here is how I think about it:
- AP 2.0 is currently HW only.
- The software has to be fine-tuned, potentially for up to 2years.
- During that period, some AP 1.0 features will not be available or available intermittently.
Personally, I would rather drive a 1.0 car for 2 years, let others debug 2.0 and enjoy 2.0 when it's fully baked, both on the HW and software side.
- AP 2.0 is currently HW only.
- The software has to be fine-tuned, potentially for up to 2years.
- During that period, some AP 1.0 features will not be available or available intermittently.
Personally, I would rather drive a 1.0 car for 2 years, let others debug 2.0 and enjoy 2.0 when it's fully baked, both on the HW and software side.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Garlan Garner
Banned
Good lord, Garner. Comparing commodities to suffrage and slavery? They the most effective way you speak up when dealing with purchased goods is with your checkbook. Yes, you can post on public message boards, but then you are subjecting yourself to any and all responses. That's what I learned in life.
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