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I published another article on Seeking Alpha about Tesla's demand in the long-term (2020). Here is the link: Analyzing Tesla's Demand And How It Will Drive The Stock - Tesla Motors (NASDAQ:TSLA) | Seeking Alpha

Here is the text (Because I know SeekingAlpha has a login wall):

  • Lux Research's predictions regarding Tesla's demand shows a lack of research and extrapolation, and is based on assumptions on how the rest of the EV market will do.
  • The Model X already has 20k pre-orders and is growing at a rate of 40-45 per day. The Model S "refresh" and Model 3 release will generate even more demand.
  • Tesla's valuation is based on Tesla being able to achieve their targets for 2020, and will remain that way until Tesla gives investors a reason to be less confident.
  • Although Tesla will likely not have a demand problem for a long time, there could be problems with ramping up production, recalls, and not being able to sell directly.
  • Tesla will not have a serious threat from competition until the competition develops a fast charging network as well as a Gigafactory that allows them to mass produce batteries cheaply.
The Lux Research Report
As Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) climbed over $280 per share in the first days of September, Lux Research released a report about Tesla's Gigafactory. The Gigafactory made news recently after Tesla announced that it would be built in Nevada. The state offered an incentive package worth $1.28 billion, with a breakdown like this:
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Previously, there were concerns about funding for the Gigafactory, and these concerns should be mitigated by this huge tax incentive package. But Lux Research brings up a different concern: overcapacity. According to Lux, Tesla will only be able to sell 240,000 vehicles in 2020, resulting in a 57% overcapacity in the Gigafactory. After publishing the report, the Lux Research Analyst went on Bloomberg TV to explain the reasoning behind the report. He said Lux predicts that in 2020, there will be 440,000 EVs sold globally, and that Lux assumed Tesla would take a little more than 50% market share with 240,000 vehicles.
There are multiple problems with Lux's assumptions. In 2013,220,000 electric vehicles were sold worldwide, whereas in 2012,120,000 electric vehicles were sold worldwide. This means that Lux is predicting that the growth in electric vehicle sales will slow down drastically from 85% to a measly 10.5% per year (average over the next 7 years). An even bigger flaw is the fact that Tesla's demand is not a function of overall electric vehicle sales. Tesla is a disruptor in the industry, as it is the first (and only) compelling electric vehicle that competes with gasoline vehicles in its class. In fact, Tesla outsold the Mercedes S-class, the second best selling car in its class, by almost 5,000 vehicles in 2013. Just like Apple in the smartphone market during 2007-2010, Tesla will probably remain a leader in the market due to competitive advantages that I laid out in my previousarticle. If Tesla does manage to do this, it is not unlikely that they will capture much more than 50% market share in 2020.
Lux Research also commented "The Gigafactory will only reduce the Tesla Model 3's cost by $2,800, not enough to sway the success of the planned lower-cost EV". This is inconsistent with other numbers in the report. According to their report, Tesla currently has a cost per kWh of $274, which is a lot less than the $397 that they predicted in 2012 for the 2020 timeframe. Here is the graph that Lux research provided:
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This graph shows a cost per kWh of $200, which goes along with Tesla's conservative estimates of 30% cost reduction in battery pack costs in 2017. These savings amount to much more than $2,800. Using the $274 per kWh estimate, Tesla's 60 kWh battery pack costs $16,440. If the Gigafactory gets costs down to $200 per kWh, then the 60 kWh battery pack would cost $12,000, which is already a savings of $4,440, and there are even further savings as the Model 3 will probably have a smaller battery pack due to its smaller size.
Lux Research's analysis is lacking because it bases its prediction of Tesla's demand on their ultra conservative prediction of total electric vehicle demand in 2020. Also, their numbers for battery savings are inconsistent throughout their report. On top of this, Lux Research predicted in 2012 that battery costs would reach $397 per kWh by 2020, and acknowledged in this report that Tesla's current battery costs are $274 per kWh, which is 30% less, 6 years ahead of time. Overall, it seems that Lux Research didn't do the job well. In order to better understand Tesla's high valuation, it is necessary to analyze and extrapolate Tesla's future demand properly.


Model S, Model X, Model 3, and How They Will Drive Demand
It is well known that on Seeking Alpha, authors often mistakenly talk about Tesla's current model, the Model S, having peaked demand (when in reality it is just peaked deliveries). Tesla has a constantly growing amount of customer deposits ($228 million in the last quarter), and over the last few months, wait times have been increasing (averaging 3 months in US, 4-5 months everywhere else). This shows that demand has not peaked unless Tesla is lying on their balance sheet about customer deposits and hiding cars in warehouses to artificially increase wait times.
Also, the phrase "peaked demand" implies that Tesla cannot generate any more demand. However, Tesla is currently opening stores at a very slow rate compared to Supercharger and Service Center expansion, has no budget for advertising, and has operations in only 14 countries. As Tesla ramps up production, they will come closer to being demand constrained, and when that happens, Tesla will be able to generate more demand simply by opening more stores, advertising, and expanding operations into more countries. Also, Model S demand can be increased by simply offering new features that many buyers need in order to be confident in purchasing the Model S. For example, Supercharging stations and destination chargers might drive demand as more and more of them open. Another possibility is that Tesla introduces an all-wheel drive version of the Model S, which would appeal to drivers in harsher climates, as well as drivers who like sporty vehicles (AWD would increase performance). With all of these future developments, the demand for the Model S could potentially grow to 70,000 units worldwide per year, which is a similar volume to the Mercedes S-Class and the Lexus LS. A base case for the Model S would be 55,000 units per year, which is on par with the BMW 7 series. If the Model S flops, a bearish case for its sales would be 35,000 units per year, which is a similar volume to the Mercedes CLS-class and the Audi A8, which are less successful models in the ultra-luxury sedan market.
Tesla is currently ramping up production of the Model S in order to shorten wait times as the Model X comes online and adds thousands of customers to the waitlist. Currently, the Model X has 20,510 reservations, and the count increases by about 40-45 per day. This rate will probably increase as Tesla reveals more about the Model X and offers test drives, and in all probability, the Model X will have 30,000+ reservations by the time it enters production. The Model X will lure many consumers as it will be one of the highest performing SUVs on the market. Other desirable features for consumers include higher safety, more cargo space, and unique doors. The Model X could potentially reach 100,000 units worldwide per year, which is a similar volume to the BMW X5 and the Mercedes M-Class. In the base case, the Model X would probably sell around 55,000 units per year, as demand is expected to be similar if not more than for the Model S. A bearish case for the Model X's sales would be 35,000 units per year, which is similar to the BMW X6 and Audi Q7 sales volumes, which are at the bottom of the market in the ultra-luxury SUV market.
Finally, the Model 3 will be the main driver of demand for Tesla. The Model 3 will be attractive to many buyers because it will be at the $35,000 price range, and after gasoline savings and maintenance savings, it could be comparable in cost to vehicles in the $25,000 price range, yet have the performance and luxury of vehicles that are in the $35,000 price range (if Tesla executes properly). Another reason that the Model 3 will have a strong allure is the fact that it will be an almost completely American made green vehicle due to the fact that Tesla is going to build its batteries in the Gigafactory which will be located in Nevada. The Model 3 could potentially sell in similar volumes to the BMW 3 series, which would be 500,000 units per year. A base case for Model 3 demand would be 400,000 units per year, which is competitive with the Audi A4 and the Mercedes C-Class. However, if the Model 3 doesn't live up to expectations, sales would still be high because it will be an electric car with a 200 mile driving range, and thus will be acceptable to many buyers. Based on this, a bearish case for the Model 3 is 150,000 units per year.
In total, if Tesla executes well and receives demand akin to the most successful models in their price range, Tesla has the potential to have demand of 670,000 cars in 2020, which would mean that Tesla would have to open a new assembly plant and not enter the battery storage business yet because of such large demand for their cars. In the base case, Tesla would be selling 510,000 units per year in 2020 as their Model S/X/3 compete with slightly less successful models in their respective price ranges. The base case is in line with what Tesla projects in 2020 currently.
However, Tesla could become a niche player, and the Model S/X/3 might only appeal to buyers because they are electric and environmentally sound. In this bearish case, Tesla would sell only 220,000 cars in 2020, which would be comparable to Porsche, which sold 165,808 cars in 2013. All three of these cases have some conservatism built in because the sales are based on sales of other models in 2013, and don't account for growth in automobile sales between 2013-2020. Also, all three cases are based on sales of other cars in the price range, however, electric cars are cheaper to operate, so shoppers in lower price ranges might step up. Furthermore, the cars on which these sales projections are based on are competitive in their price range because they offer superior performance, luxury, and/or safety. Because Tesla's cars are electric, their sales will get a boost from people who are concerned about the environment. Although these projections all seem overly ambitious, they actually have a variety of conservative assumptions built into them.


Competition
Although there is a very real possibility that Tesla will have competition, it is unlikely and will not take market share from Tesla. Competition is unlikely because Tesla is ahead of everyone else with their Supercharger network, and also because no other company has plans to build a Gigafactory that will allow it to reduce prices for their batteries and allow them to manufacture their cars on a mass scale. Also, even if other companies overcome these obstacles, their electric cars are more likely to take away market share from other ICEs rather than Tesla. In other words, if GM introduces an electric car that sells 200,000 units in that year, it is likely that most of the people who buy that car are switching from a gasoline car rather than a Tesla, which means the electric car market simply increased by 200,000 cars that year.


Tesla Motors Valuation
So what does each of these cases mean for Tesla's valuation? In all three cases an average selling price of $105,000 for Tesla's Model S and X and an average selling price of $45,000 for Tesla's Model 3 is fair. Also, for all three cases, an annual increase of 2% in the amount of shares is also a fair assumption, resulting in 140 million shares in 2020. Also, all three cases will assume an annual discount rate of 10%, and a tax rate of 25%.
The bearish case would result in $14.1 billion in revenues. Using an 8% operating margin would yield $1.128 billion in operating profits and $846 million in net profits. A P/E ratio of 25 is fair because Tesla will probably be expanding their model offering in order to try to maximize production in their factory. This results in a market capitalization of $21.15 billion, which is a per share price of $151 in 2020. Discounted back to 2014, this translates into a share price of $85, which represents a 66.5% downside from today's price.
The base case would result in $29.55 billion in revenues. Using a 15% operating margin would yield $4.433 billion in operating profits and $3.325 billion in net profits. A P/E ratio of 20 is fair because Tesla will probably have accomplished most of their growth, but will still be growing faster than the rest of the industry. This results in a market capitalization of $66.49 billion, which is a per share price of $475. Discounted back to 2014, this translates into a share price of $268, which represents a 5.5% upside from today's price.
The bullish case would result in $40.35 billion in revenues. Using a 15% operating margin would yield $6.053 billion in operating profits and $4.539 billion in net profits. A P/E ratio of 20 is fair because Tesla will still be expanding their selection of models and will be entering the stationary storage business. This results in a market capitalization of $90.788 billion, which is a per share price of $648. Discounted back to 2014, this translates into a share price of $366, which represents a 44% upside from today's price.


The Risks
The potential is high for Tesla, but it comes with a fair share of risks. If Tesla fails to keep consumers attention as they release new models, or they do not execute as well as they had with the Model S, they will probably end up in the bearish case. But these are moderate risks that are accounted for in the valuation model. However, there are larger risks that could damage the company severely enough to force Tesla into bankruptcy. For example, if Tesla continues to ramp up expenses, but production ramp up stutters, then Tesla could burn through their cash and be forced to file bankruptcy. Also, Tesla has a risk of facing recalls like all other auto manufacturers, and this could damage the company's finances. Also, another problem could be more states making it illegal to sell directly. Consumers may not want to adopt online ordering of cars, and thus Tesla would not be able to sell through stores and struggle to sell online.
These risks are unusual events, and should not be priced into the stock because they are dependent on Tesla's own execution. Tesla has been executing well, therefore these events shouldn't be priced in. On top of that, these unusual events are negative risks, and for lack of a better word, positive risks exist as well. For example, Tesla might become the leader of electric car development by producing batteries, developing drivetrains for other manufacturers, and selling rights to use their charging networks. Tesla can also potentially strike gold in the stationary storage business, or sell even more cars than the bullish case in this model. But these events are also unlikely in the 2020 timeframe, or at least there is no clear path laid out publicly. Just like the negative risks, these events should not be priced into the stock until there is a clear path towards them.


Conclusion
The Lux Research report did not do sufficient research and extrapolation and did not gauge Tesla's potential demand properly. Gauging Tesla's demand must be done by comparing it to ICE cars in the price range and extrapolating sales from that data. Next, we take the cars that are doing the best in those markets and take the cars that are doing the worst in those markets as bullish and bearish cases for Tesla's models. The bearish case is that Tesla will be selling 220,000 cars in 2020 and will become a niche player like Porsche with a $21.15 billion market cap. The base case is that Tesla will be selling 510,000 cars in 2020 and will become a premium automaker like BMW with a $66.49 billion market cap. The bullish case is that Tesla will be selling 670,000 cars in 2020 and will become a high volume premium automaker like Daimler with a $90.79 billion market cap. Although Tesla faces many risks, they should not be priced into the stock, just like surprise revenue streams shouldn't be priced into the stock.
 
Thanks, 32no. I would add that the rate of growth in the customer deposits is exceptional. IIRC, it grew by about 40% over the last two quarters. That's an annual rate of 100%. And I would stress that customer deposits measure aggregate demand in dollars, the willingness to forego no other return on the dollars deposited than to hasten the date of delivery.

I'm glad you posted this on SA and here. Thanks.
 
Thanks 32no. While we're on the subject of research, I haven't seen much in the way of good market studies on the future of BEVs. Most of it is seriously flawed. There currently are not any good choices for a compelling EV that you can buy today for under $50,000. I've been driving a Tesla since early 2011 and talked to a lot of people who can't afford the car I drive. But they see the benefits. About half the people I talk to say they're ready to buy a BEV now, or the next time they replace one of their vehicles, if only it would go 200+ miles and have supercharging capability. That's a LOT of potential Model 3 buyers. While my informal conversations are no substitute for a real market study, I think Tesla will be production constrained for a long time. 500,000 Model 3 cars in 2020 won't begin to satisfy demand.

I think Tesla's biggest risk is growing pains. Elon says the same thing. We've already seen it. Doubling in size every year is extremely hard. When asked what is Tesla's biggest hurdle going forward, Elon said at TESLIVE 2013 "...being able to ramp up quick enough."
 
  • The Tesla CEO also expects the company to start generating strong "free cash flow beginning in Q3 of 2015" and could pay for the construction of its planned gigafactory without additional borrowing.
Presumably because that's when the X is ramped up and shipping at full speed. I'd have been surprised if that wasn't the case in Q3 given the timelines Tesla has laid out for the X in the past.
 
What do people think of the following scaling argument?

I've heard that about 25% of the S 85 is the battery pack. I'm wondering how this 4 to 1 ratio of car price to battery price could hold up. So the S 85 starts at 81000, which is $950 per kWh, which is 4 time 237.5 per kWh for the battery. The S60 starts at 71000. Scaling up $950 times 60 gets to $57000. I think this would be a fabulous price for the S60. After the US federal tax credit of $7500, this would net out to $49500. Of course in the current supply constrained situation, the is no need to lower the price. But what is interesting is that the body of the car may simply be over priced relative to the battery. For many reasons the S85 just feels like more value for the money. So scaling seems to make some intuitive sense.

Now let's play this game with the M3. First, reduce the battery cost per kWh by 30% per Gigafactory. This is $166.25 per kWh. Give this car a 50 kWh battery for $8312.50. Scale up by 4 and get a price of $33250. Not to shabby. This leaves about $16625 for the cost of the body to allow a GM of about 30%.

I know that lots of people have worked up much more detailed pricing models than this, but what I am after is a fairly simple rule that I can use to extrapolate prices out 10 years or more. Suppose the price of batteries continues to come down about 7% per year. Could we continue to see the rest of car price for the same size battery come down by the same rate? If so, base models would continue to be about 4 times the price of the battery. Imagine when battery packs hit the $100/kWh price. You could get an economy car with 50 kWh for $20k or a more luxurious car with 125 kWh starting at $50k. Of course people can load up on more options, but it would be nice to guage the base price in such a way. And it would be nice to have a gradual price reduction over time. Some day that S85 could start at $34k and Camry would be a forgotten memory.
 
Elon's recent suggestion of 500,000 cars by 2020 got me thinking. I know JB had a slide in a Stanford presentation that offered 700,000 cars by 2019, and Nummi theoretically caps at 500,000, and the gigafactory is built around this number too. I had recollection of 500,000 by 2019 and I dug it up from a Seeking Alpha post:

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This prediction came when the company closed at $55/share. Hope he's right.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1381001-tesla-motors-full-analysis-its-only-mistake-outlook-and-elon-musk#comments_header
 
Running of the Bulls

During the recent dip I mentioned to a friend that has been sitting on the sideline waiting to get in that it might be a decent opportunity to start buying in. The next day they responded that their broker talked them out of it based on a recent report by John Lovallo and John Murphy of BofA / Merrill Lynch. The report, published Sept 3, is titled "Running of the Bulls" and attempts to discredit many of the bullish points Tesla has going. Here is the thesis of the paper:

A page extracted from the bull thesis and why we disagree
In our view, the bull case on Tesla's stock is predicated on numerous, seemingly
unrealistic expectations for margins, volume, scale, cash flow, and success in
ancillary markets. In this report, we explore several key beachheads of the bull case
and attempt to illustrate why the underlying assumptions appear stretchy.

They then go on to dispute in detail these major bull points:

"Tesla's auto gross margin is among the industry's best" - Tesla does not calculate gross margin the same as other OEM's in the industry. i.e. They are including Cafe/GHG credits and excluding R&D and engineering expenses. adjusting for these two factors, Tesla is really only at 12.2%.

"R&D/Vehicle is elevated because they are a start up" - They see spending be high for many years and do a comparison with Porsche at 117k vehicles/yr in 2011 noting the similarities in costs - Tesla @ $12.9k/vehicle and Porsche @ $12.4k/vehicle. Next they show BMW at 2mm vehicles/yr had costs of $4.4k/vehicle; in the best case scenario Tesla won't produce that many cars so they wont come close to BMW's cost/vehicle by 2020 because they wont have the proper economies of scale.

"Warranty Costs will decline" - They don't see these costs going down since Tesla is a new company and trying to make cars in volume. They calculate that warranty costs were $283/ vehicle in 2Q14 and extrapolate that over 32 quarters tesla will be looking at $9.1k in theoretical warranty costs per vehicle, thus eating up 68% of 2Q gross margin per vehicle.

"Cash flow will improve in the coming quarters" - Tesla burned $240mm in free cash flow in 2Q. They foresee ramp in costs associated with Model X and Model 3, and lots of capex on the Gigafactory. Projecting $2.4bn cash burn over next 10 quarters. They were skeptical that Panasonic would commit more than $300mm to the gigafactory. They foresee another significant capital raise on the horizon; and because of their B- credit rating it will be harder to get favorable terms for future capital raises.

"Stationary Storage is a massive opportunity" - Cycle life for stationary packs should be between 3.5k and 15k (10-40 years). They estimate the useful cycle life for tesla packs to be theoretically 1,460 cycles.


I haven't seen this report referred to on the forum yet, so I thought it would be good to share. I think it is nice to read this stuff so we can see what angle the short thesis is coming from. The report is more detailed than my quick outline so if any regular forum members want to see the whole report please PM.
 
"R&D/Vehicle is elevated because they are a start up" - They see spending be high for many years and do a comparison with Porsche at 117k vehicles/yr in 2011 noting the similarities in costs - Tesla @ $12.9k/vehicle and Porsche @ $12.4k/vehicle.

For starters.

VW and Porsche merged in a complex cross holding deal in 2011. And they were intertwined in a carnal embrace before that. Porsche hides much of its R&D in VW and simply gets VW tech,parts,platforms etc. Porsche is not an independent company. Comparing an independent Co, Tesla, to a brand/subsidiary is bogus.
 
"Tesla's auto gross margin is among the industry's best" - Tesla does not calculate gross margin the same as other OEM's in the industry. i.e. They are including Cafe/GHG credits and excluding R&D and engineering expenses. adjusting for these two factors, Tesla is really only at 12.2%.

Even with R&D expenses accounted for in gross margin calculations, Tesla is still inline with the rest of the auto industry despite having volumes that are smaller by several orders of magnitude. But the thing is, it is unfair to say that Tesla is unprofitable because on a GAAP basis and then also say that their gross margin is not industry leading. This is because other automakers amortize their R&D expenses over time and thus recognize them as cost of goods sold rather than an operating expense like Tesla does. So if Tesla did amortize their R&D, they would be spending less on R&D per quarter because of the amortization of costs, and thus would be turning a GAAP profit while having gross margins that are inline with the auto industry and growing. People who spread FUD should pick one - not profitable on a GAAP basis or no-better-than-average gross margins.

Point is, Tesla is different, and comparing them to everyone else in the auto industry on anything other than demand is futile.

"R&D/Vehicle is elevated because they are a start up" - They see spending be high for many years and do a comparison with Porsche at 117k vehicles/yr in 2011 noting the similarities in costs - Tesla @ $12.9k/vehicle and Porsche @ $12.4k/vehicle. Next they show BMW at 2mm vehicles/yr had costs of $4.4k/vehicle; in the best case scenario Tesla won't produce that many cars so they wont come close to BMW's cost/vehicle by 2020 because they wont have the proper economies of scale.

Well, as RobStark said, Porsche is a subsidiary and Tesla is independent. Also, R&D is mostly engineering work for future products and capacity expansion. Because Tesla is currently pumping out models at a blazing fast rate as well as trying to expand capacity also at a blazing fast rate, you see incredibly fast growth in R&D expenses which seem to consistently eat up all of the operating profits. However, these costs will slow in growth as Tesla becomes a more established company.

Again, Tesla is different, comparing to other companies is futile.

"Warranty Costs will decline" - They don't see these costs going down since Tesla is a new company and trying to make cars in volume. They calculate that warranty costs were $283/ vehicle in 2Q14 and extrapolate that over 32 quarters tesla will be looking at $9.1k in theoretical warranty costs per vehicle, thus eating up 68% of 2Q gross margin per vehicle.

They don't see costs going down because it is probably in their best interest not to see such things, even when in plain sight (which happens to be the case). Tesla has a new model with inevitable occasional defects, and reducing defects by fixing errors in the relatively new production line will offset any growth in warranty costs. Once Tesla introduces a new model, warranty costs will go up again, and will follow the same downward trend later on as defects are reduced.

The numbers for the warranty costs seem as made up to me as Lux Research's numbers of only 240k sales in 2020 and only $2800 savings in batteries.

"Cash flow will improve in the coming quarters" - Tesla burned $240mm in free cash flow in 2Q. They foresee ramp in costs associated with Model X and Model 3, and lots of capex on the Gigafactory. Projecting $2.4bn cash burn over next 10 quarters. They were skeptical that Panasonic would commit more than $300mm to the gigafactory. They foresee another significant capital raise on the horizon; and because of their B- credit rating it will be harder to get favorable terms for future capital raises.

Again, a silly argument from BofA/Merrill Lynch. First of all, $240 million was the operating expenses, and free cash flow was -$177,347,000. Second, Model X/Model3 engineering costs are operating expenses, not CapEx, so the real CapEx is in expanding production capacity for the Model X/Model 3 and realizing that production capacity. However, Model X ramp will simply take the place of the Model S ramp as Tesla starts to produce close to their demand at a given time, which means that there will be little to no net increase in costs. Therefore costs will increase temporarily as Tesla adds capacity to their plant in Q3. Also, lots of CapEx on the Gigafactory is not a problem because that's what Tesla raised cash for... Also it is known that Panasonic will be paying in installments, and somewhere someone posted an article that Panasonic will invest $200+ million per year from 2015-2020 on the Gigafactory. It makes sense that Panasonic has only contributed $200 million so far because Panasonic will be doing equipment installation and not initial construction of the plant.

Tesla guided for $750-950 million in CapEx for 2014, so lets take the middle of $850 million and subtract the CapEx for 6 months ended on 6/30/14 ($317,049,000) to get $532,951,000 in CapEx for the next two quarters. Then let's assume that Tesla will spend $750 million on construction and $500 million on battery pack equipment in 2015-2016 for the Gigafactory. Also, let's assume another $1 billion in CapEx in 2015-2016 for realization of Model X production capacity and expanding Model 3 production capacity. This brings the total estimated (by me) CapEx over the next 10 quarters to $2.8 Billion, which means that only $400 million of operating profits is considered in BofA/Merrill Lynch analysis. To put this in perspective, this is only $0.32 per share average over the next 10 quarters (Q4 2014-Q3 2015 will experience huge growth in operating profits as Tesla goes first to 13,000 units per quarter, and then edge towards 20,000+ with the Model X).

Anyway, it's ok for Tesla to spend $2.8 billion in the next 10 quarters because they have $2.7 billion in cash currently, and expect to have strong operating profits by Q3 2015 (per Elon Musk), which will add more cash. So no, a capital raise will not be necessary unless there are extra costs or Tesla fails to make operating profits.

"Stationary Storage is a massive opportunity" - Cycle life for stationary packs should be between 3.5k and 15k (10-40 years). They estimate the useful cycle life for tesla packs to be theoretically 1,460 cycles.

I'd like to see these calculations and why they think cycle life for stationary packs SHOULD be between 3.5k-15k. When Tesla gets costs per kWh down to around $170 (thinking 2017-2018), it would only cost $1700 to replace a 10 kWh residential unit every 4 years (1460 cycles), which works out to a cost of about $400 per year, much less than what the average home spends for electricity ($1200+) per year.
 
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Analysts' role

During the recent dip I mentioned to a friend that has been sitting on the sideline waiting to get in that it might be a decent opportunity to start buying in. The next day they responded that their broker talked them out of it based on a recent report by John Lovallo and John Murphy of BofA / Merrill Lynch.

They go on to dispute in detail these major bull points:
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"Cash flow will improve in the coming quarters" - Tesla burned $240mm in free cash flow in 2Q. They foresee ramp in costs associated with Model X and Model 3, and lots of capex on the Gigafactory. Projecting $2.4bn cash burn over next 10 quarters. They were skeptical that Panasonic would commit more than $300mm to the gigafactory. They foresee another significant capital raise on the horizon; and because of their B- credit rating it will be harder to get favorable terms for future capital raises.
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Thanks for posting gym7rjm, interesting points.

The main issue I have with some of these analysts is that they seem to apply their own thinking to Tesla and base their analysis on expectation that Tesla will follow their thinking and some established business practices and standards.

Everything about Tesla is so out of the box and out of the established ways of doing business. Trying to evaluate Tesla business potential using boxed thinking is bound to be faulty, at least for me.

I will not go through the analysis point by point, but just for example, the argument that Tesla might find it harder to raise capital due to poor credit rating, I find that unlikely.

My evaluation of that specific point is that Tesla’s creative thinkers will find effective ways to raise money. They have done it in the past and will be able to do so in the future, if there is a need.

Recent (not the first) euphoria in share price that required CEO’s intervention to cool it down suggests market’s willingness to flow more capital to its darling stock.

Some analysts seem to have the power to move the market just by expressing their opinion. I would be surprised if analysts’ market moving power survives far into the future.

Each investor is as capable as any analyst of conducting their own research and evaluation work. If that holds true, then analysts are obsolete. These smart people will be hopefully applying their significant skills to more useful and more creative purposes.

My expectation for market moving power is to become much more aligned with creators and people that participate in value creating and value adding activities.
 
This company, or just about any company, that is production constrained, with order backlogs, growing rapidly and good margins will not have any trouble financing in the current market. I am pretty certain that most of the investors in the first convert deal would be happy to add more. Surprising to see this from a major bank analyst when his own bank is leading debt/equity financing for much dodger companies without much problem. B- is a huge step up from some of these other deals.

its good that the analysts are not all unreflective cheerleaders, but a lot of this report seems to be written out of fear
 
This company, or just about any company, that is production constrained, with order backlogs, growing rapidly and good margins will not have any trouble financing in the current market. I am pretty certain that most of the investors in the first convert deal would be happy to add more. Surprising to see this from a major bank analyst when his own bank is leading debt/equity financing for much dodger companies without much problem. B- is a huge step up from some of these other deals.

its good that the analysts are not all unreflective cheerleaders, but a lot of this report seems to be written out of fear
Have always believed what musk says. He will TAKE AVANTAGE of money if thrown at him but there are no plans to raise any now and giga factory will not need a raise of funds
 
This company, or just about any company, that is production constrained, with order backlogs, growing rapidly and good margins will not have any trouble financing in the current market. I am pretty certain that most of the investors in the first convert deal would be happy to add more. Surprising to see this from a major bank analyst when his own bank is leading debt/equity financing for much dodger companies without much problem. B- is a huge step up from some of these other deals.

its good that the analysts are not all unreflective cheerleaders, but a lot of this report seems to be written out of fear

Recent nobel prize winning economist Gene Fama and his partner Ken French have pretty well demonstrated through careful research that analysts and fund managers aren't worth the paper their reports are printed on.
 
Recent nobel prize winning economist Gene Fama and his partner Ken French have pretty well demonstrated through careful research that analysts and fund managers aren't worth the paper their reports are printed on.

Quite true. They know about as much about medicine as the markerters who make pharmaceutical comercials, or as much about organic chemistry as a buiseness oriented oil executive. (As opposed to a physician or a chemist in the examples mentioned).
 
Wait so his broker turned him off of TSLA over one analyst report? That is quite sad... Maybe he should at least have been told about all the other reports out there instead of directing him to the most bearish report out there... Isn't BOA the one that still has a PT of like 70?

This is like saying, yeah you should use a cellphone because some guy, somewhere, said that it causes cancer and they are using these phones to read people's minds...

Please direct your friend to at least consider some other opinions vice just the most outlandish report out there. Heck, I would rather him consider investment off the GS report than the BOA one... At least GS sees a future, even if that chance is slim (in their eyes)
 
The last full gs report, when they first set the 200pt, is actually quite good to read all the way through. A bunch of interesting possibilities for the future in there. He's being conservative but the analysis is good. It's where the multiple future cases comes from (maytag, apple, ford, etc).
 
Elon's recent suggestion of 500,000 cars by 2020 got me thinking. I know JB had a slide in a Stanford presentation that offered 700,000 cars by 2019, and Nummi theoretically caps at 500,000, and the gigafactory is built around this number too. I had recollection of 500,000 by 2019 and I dug it up from a Seeking Alpha post:

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This chart is arguably the most important chart when considering TSLA long-term. There's a few simple problems with it that needs updating:

1) for 2015, I believe latest guidance from TSLA is 60k cars delivered, not 40k.

2) Looking at the 2016 row, 75k cars with $4.4bil in revenue works out to $59k per car. That's very conservative, to the point of being wrong, even if Model 3 is available in 2016.

If we take 60k cars and multiply by around $88k per car for 2015, we're at $5.7bil in revenue....putting us somewhere between 2016 and 2017 on the chart.
 
The table is a good exercise to understand how the fundamentals of Tesla will intersect its stock price in the future. I don't agree with some of the assumptions used in it. I will try to put my own together on a Google Sheet and share it.

Maybe others could make copies of it with their own views so we can compare.
 
If we take 60k cars and multiply by around $88k per car for 2015, we're at $5.7bil in revenue....putting us somewhere between 2016 and 2017 on the chart.

No way will the price be $88k per car in 2015. We're already above that and the Model X is going to be a bit more money than the Model S. It won't be 88k in 2016 either as Tesla pumps out the backlog for the Model X in that year and expectations are that X will outsell the S based on industry numbers of SUV's vs Sedans. Any significant volume of Model 3 won't be seen until 2017 (if things go as Tesla plans).