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Looking at used, if it says "Full self-driving computer"? [Does that mean it has FSD?]
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Gimmethecash
Member
That car has autopilot ("autopilot included package") not FSD.
thats telling you that it has hardware version 3 computer, and autopilot as an included package, does NOT have FSD, and has a monthly subscription to premium connectivity.
On the "does FSD transfer" discussion, its not relevant to this vehicle because it doesnt have it. The very high level answer to that question is, if you are buying a used tesla PRIVATE PARTY from the ORIGINAL OWNER, AND FSD was purchased on that vehicle, it will transfer. In any other circumstance, "it depends".
thats telling you that it has hardware version 3 computer, and autopilot as an included package, does NOT have FSD, and has a monthly subscription to premium connectivity.
On the "does FSD transfer" discussion, its not relevant to this vehicle because it doesnt have it. The very high level answer to that question is, if you are buying a used tesla PRIVATE PARTY from the ORIGINAL OWNER, AND FSD was purchased on that vehicle, it will transfer. In any other circumstance, "it depends".
E90alex
Active Member
The way the sections on the screen is worded and laid out is weird.
If it has FSD, instead of “Autopilot: Included package”, it would say “Full Self Driving Capability: Included package”.
They should make it more like:
Autopilot computer: HW3.0 or FSD capable
Autopilot package: Basic Autopilot / Enhanced Autopilot / Full Self Driving
If it has FSD, instead of “Autopilot: Included package”, it would say “Full Self Driving Capability: Included package”.
They should make it more like:
Autopilot computer: HW3.0 or FSD capable
Autopilot package: Basic Autopilot / Enhanced Autopilot / Full Self Driving
Complete side note... every time I see your user name here, it reminds me of the last time I really really "loved" a BMW I had. I loved the E90 I had. I didnt like the F 3 series I had much at all. I did like the loaded F series 435 I had, but not as much as the E90.
Exact same feelings, have a f34 335xi now and a 3 SR+, miss the E90 325i a lot, that chassis just feels connected to my brain and everything feels so organic. The Model 3 is great but the undefeatable stability control and throttle cut based on steering angle reduces the fun factor a bit.
Thanks a ton for the feedback! This car is distant so I don't have the ability to physically inspect it. It's white with white interior, so that's a bit of a turnoff, but the deal seems good by comparison. Just not sure I want a white interior car. If it had FSD included, that would have probably swayed the decision pretty easily. Alas.
ATPMSD
Active Member
No matter what car you look at, I suggest you get a screen shot of the additional vehicle information screen. For example 3G wireless is all but shutdown. Tesla offers an upgrade so this is something to be aware of and to check.
E90alex
Active Member
Going on 13 years with my 2006 330i that I’ve had since 2009. It was the last generation before things started getting really bloated at BMW.
I am looking at a 2016 and on the screen it says
autopilot computer: full self driving computer
Full-self driving capability included package.
Does this mean it has fsd built in ?
Tam
Well-Known Member
The FSD computer is there but whether you can use FSD beta or not is another matter.
If you are the original owner, you would know whether you paid FSD or not.
If you are not, it's possible that the original owner didn't pay FSD fully but only rent it monthly.
You need to look at the line:
FSD package included, then you know that your car has FSD.
E90alex
Active Member
Having the “full self driving computer” doesn’t necessarily mean it has FSD. Only that it’s capable of having FSD.
Coxwain
Member
E90alex
Active Member
No. MCU is the infotainment computer. MCU3 is the AMD Ryzen powered infotainment beginning ~2022.
ATPMSD
Active Member
Check out this page for the various HW and MCU levels / features
tesla-info.com
Tesla feature differences due to hardware
We explain the Tesla feature differences due to MCU and AP hardware that have occured over time
tesla-info.com
Coxwain
Member
thank you but I am still having trouble understanding the hardware vs the mcuCheck out this page for the various HW and MCU levels / features
Tesla feature differences due to hardware
We explain the Tesla feature differences due to MCU and AP hardware that have occured over time
you can have mcu1 but autopilot 2.5? i see
Autopilot computer, Full self driving computer
includes Autopilot
what hardware does this vehicle have?
or
autopilot computer 2.0 computer
autopilot included package
some with side cameras , some without.
I simply don't get the differences.
Additional vehicle information shows
Autopilot computer: full self driving computer ona a Nvidia Tegra
Tam
Well-Known Member
MCU is Media Control Unit. It's just like a unit in other brands that don't do Driver Assistance: Radio, Navigation Maps...
You can have HW3 FSD computer but with the obsolete MCU1 because some owners don't want to pay for MCU2 upgrade.
Not on any vehicle in this subforum, you cant. No model 3 or Y has "MCU 1".
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